Eating your own dog food (Site/Blog)
Hi, if I want to create a site/blog in pharo⦠What do I use? I know that there is Pier, but when you check its webpage, the last update is in 2011. Pharo website is built with Marina, but when I check the repo, the last commit was done by me and it was 2 month ago. Will Marina continue to evolve? And is anyone else using Marina? Uko
Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> writes:
if I want to create a site/blog in pharo⦠What do I use? I know that there is Pier, but when you check its webpage, the last update is in 2011. Pharo website is built with Marina, but when I check the repo, the last commit was done by me and it was 2 month ago. Will Marina continue to evolve? And is anyone else using Marina?
http://forum.world.st/Any-framework-to-create-a-blog-over-seaside-td4810615.... -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill
Oh, I knew that there was a discussion about that, but couldnât find where. Still, is anybody else using Marina except for Pharo website? Uko
On 07 Apr 2015, at 10:45, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com> wrote:
Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> writes:
if I want to create a site/blog in pharo⦠What do I use? I know that there is Pier, but when you check its webpage, the last update is in 2011. Pharo website is built with Marina, but when I check the repo, the last commit was done by me and it was 2 month ago. Will Marina continue to evolve? And is anyone else using Marina?
http://forum.world.st/Any-framework-to-create-a-blog-over-seaside-td4810615.... -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill
I started to work on using pillar to do that but nothing ready for people to use. I will work on it at Lviv or during my vacations just after. I want to use it for my website. Right now parts of it are automatically generated from Pharo. Stef Le 7/4/15 10:56, Yuriy Tymchuk a écrit :
Oh, I knew that there was a discussion about that, but couldnât find where.
Still, is anybody else using Marina except for Pharo website?
Uko
On 07 Apr 2015, at 10:45, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com> wrote:
Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> writes:
if I want to create a site/blog in pharo⦠What do I use? I know that there is Pier, but when you check its webpage, the last update is in 2011. Pharo website is built with Marina, but when I check the repo, the last commit was done by me and it was 2 month ago. Will Marina continue to evolve? And is anyone else using Marina?
http://forum.world.st/Any-framework-to-create-a-blog-over-seaside-td4810615.... -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill
What you are after? A static site generator or a dynamic engine? Btw. what do you use to render pillar inside the image to something readable? Norbert
Am 08.04.2015 um 08:32 schrieb stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>:
I started to work on using pillar to do that but nothing ready for people to use. I will work on it at Lviv or during my vacations just after. I want to use it for my website. Right now parts of it are automatically generated from Pharo.
Stef
Le 7/4/15 10:56, Yuriy Tymchuk a écrit :
Oh, I knew that there was a discussion about that, but couldnât find where.
Still, is anybody else using Marina except for Pharo website?
Uko
On 07 Apr 2015, at 10:45, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com> wrote:
Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> writes:
if I want to create a site/blog in pharo⦠What do I use? I know that there is Pier, but when you check its webpage, the last update is in 2011. Pharo website is built with Marina, but when I check the repo, the last commit was done by me and it was 2 month ago. Will Marina continue to evolve? And is anyone else using Marina?
http://forum.world.st/Any-framework-to-create-a-blog-over-seaside-td4810615.... -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill
There is a plan to have pillar rendering with TextModel. I don't think it will support the full pillar syntax. Le 8 avr. 2015 à 11:16, Norbert Hartl a écrit :
What you are after? A static site generator or a dynamic engine? Btw. what do you use to render pillar inside the image to something readable?
Norbert
Am 08.04.2015 um 08:32 schrieb stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>:
I started to work on using pillar to do that but nothing ready for people to use. I will work on it at Lviv or during my vacations just after. I want to use it for my website. Right now parts of it are automatically generated from Pharo.
Stef
Le 7/4/15 10:56, Yuriy Tymchuk a écrit :
Oh, I knew that there was a discussion about that, but couldnât find where.
Still, is anybody else using Marina except for Pharo website?
Uko
On 07 Apr 2015, at 10:45, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com> wrote:
Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> writes:
if I want to create a site/blog in pharo⦠What do I use? I know that there is Pier, but when you check its webpage, the last update is in 2011. Pharo website is built with Marina, but when I check the repo, the last commit was done by me and it was 2 month ago. Will Marina continue to evolve? And is anyone else using Marina?
http://forum.world.st/Any-framework-to-create-a-blog-over-seaside-td4810615.... -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill
Le 8/4/15 11:16, Norbert Hartl a écrit :
What you are after? A static site generator or a dynamic engine?
A mix between the two. I want simple static contents + logic generated :)
Btw. what do you use to render pillar inside the image to something readable?
Norbert
Am 08.04.2015 um 08:32 schrieb stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>:
I started to work on using pillar to do that but nothing ready for people to use. I will work on it at Lviv or during my vacations just after. I want to use it for my website. Right now parts of it are automatically generated from Pharo.
Stef
Le 7/4/15 10:56, Yuriy Tymchuk a écrit :
Oh, I knew that there was a discussion about that, but couldnât find where.
Still, is anybody else using Marina except for Pharo website?
Uko
On 07 Apr 2015, at 10:45, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com> wrote:
Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> writes:
if I want to create a site/blog in pharo⦠What do I use? I know that there is Pier, but when you check its webpage, the last update is in 2011. Pharo website is built with Marina, but when I check the repo, the last commit was done by me and it was 2 month ago. Will Marina continue to evolve? And is anyone else using Marina? http://forum.world.st/Any-framework-to-create-a-blog-over-seaside-td4810615.... -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill
Am 09.04.2015 um 15:54 schrieb stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>:
Le 8/4/15 11:16, Norbert Hartl a écrit :
What you are after? A static site generator or a dynamic engine?
A mix between the two. I want simple static contents + logic generated :)
Haha, some goes for me. Just didn't find time so far to make that wish a bit more concrete. Norbert
Btw. what do you use to render pillar inside the image to something readable?
Norbert
Am 08.04.2015 um 08:32 schrieb stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>:
I started to work on using pillar to do that but nothing ready for people to use. I will work on it at Lviv or during my vacations just after. I want to use it for my website. Right now parts of it are automatically generated from Pharo.
Stef
Le 7/4/15 10:56, Yuriy Tymchuk a écrit :
Oh, I knew that there was a discussion about that, but couldnât find where.
Still, is anybody else using Marina except for Pharo website?
Uko
On 07 Apr 2015, at 10:45, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com> wrote:
Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> writes:
if I want to create a site/blog in pharo⦠What do I use? I know that there is Pier, but when you check its webpage, the last update is in 2011. Pharo website is built with Marina, but when I check the repo, the last commit was done by me and it was 2 month ago. Will Marina continue to evolve? And is anyone else using Marina? http://forum.world.st/Any-framework-to-create-a-blog-over-seaside-td4810615.... -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill
When are you going to be in Lviv?
On 08 Apr 2015, at 08:32, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
I started to work on using pillar to do that but nothing ready for people to use. I will work on it at Lviv or during my vacations just after. I want to use it for my website. Right now parts of it are automatically generated from Pharo.
Stef
Le 7/4/15 10:56, Yuriy Tymchuk a écrit :
Oh, I knew that there was a discussion about that, but couldnât find where.
Still, is anybody else using Marina except for Pharo website?
Uko
On 07 Apr 2015, at 10:45, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com> wrote:
Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> writes:
if I want to create a site/blog in pharo⦠What do I use? I know that there is Pier, but when you check its webpage, the last update is in 2011. Pharo website is built with Marina, but when I check the repo, the last commit was done by me and it was 2 month ago. Will Marina continue to evolve? And is anyone else using Marina?
http://forum.world.st/Any-framework-to-create-a-blog-over-seaside-td4810615.... -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill
19 to 23 rd of April. Stef Le 8/4/15 11:23, Yuriy Tymchuk a écrit :
When are you going to be in Lviv?
On 08 Apr 2015, at 08:32, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
I started to work on using pillar to do that but nothing ready for people to use. I will work on it at Lviv or during my vacations just after. I want to use it for my website. Right now parts of it are automatically generated from Pharo.
Stef
Le 7/4/15 10:56, Yuriy Tymchuk a écrit :
Oh, I knew that there was a discussion about that, but couldnât find where.
Still, is anybody else using Marina except for Pharo website?
Uko
On 07 Apr 2015, at 10:45, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com> wrote:
Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> writes:
if I want to create a site/blog in pharo⦠What do I use? I know that there is Pier, but when you check its webpage, the last update is in 2011. Pharo website is built with Marina, but when I check the repo, the last commit was done by me and it was 2 month ago. Will Marina continue to evolve? And is anyone else using Marina? http://forum.world.st/Any-framework-to-create-a-blog-over-seaside-td4810615.... -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Hi,
if I want to create a site/blog in pharo⦠What do I use? I know that there is Pier, but when you check its webpage, the last update is in 2011. Pharo website is built with Marina, but when I check the repo, the last commit was done by me and it was 2 month ago. Will Marina continue to evolve? And is anyone else using Marina?
I had a look, but there was too much unsupported tech in there.
I think http://www.samadhiweb.com/blog/ is using a Smalltalk engine. But I do not know if it is public. Phil
Uko
You may also want to take a look at PillarHub ( http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~mikefilonov/PillarHub ) CMS. On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:05 AM, phil@highoctane.be <phil@highoctane.be> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
Hi,
if I want to create a site/blog in pharo⦠What do I use? I know that there is Pier, but when you check its webpage, the last update is in 2011. Pharo website is built with Marina, but when I check the repo, the last commit was done by me and it was 2 month ago. Will Marina continue to evolve? And is anyone else using Marina?
I had a look, but there was too much unsupported tech in there.
I think http://www.samadhiweb.com/blog/ is using a Smalltalk engine. But I do not know if it is public.
Phil
Uko
philippeback wrote
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <
yuriy.tymchuk@
> wrote:
I think http://www.samadhiweb.com/blog/ is using a Smalltalk engine. But I do not know if it is public.
Phil
Uko
Good catch!
From the about page: This blog began life as a set of static pages, generated by a home-grown content management system written in Smalltalk, imaginatively called SmallCMS1. Since April 2012, SmallCMS1 has evolved into serving content dynamically, to support tag linking like this: sqlite.
Is SmallCMS1 published somewhere? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Eating-your-own-dog-food-Site-Blog-tp4817960p4818131.h... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 09:38:37AM -0700, garduino wrote:
Is SmallCMS1 published somewhere?
I'll share some SmallCMS1's inner workings here: - Content is in plain text file, written in Markdown. Metadata is in JSON at the start of the content file. - I use Seaside's HTML rendition engine. Entire site is rendered in Smalltalk code, like how a Seaside application does. Currently calls out to the Discount C library's executable through PipeableOSProcess to get HTML from the Markdown content. I seem to recall that Petit Markdown exists, but haven't tried it. - I found Seaside's HTML-in-code style not so convenient when trying to implement one particular fine looking open source Bootstrap skin. Maybe using a templating mechanism like Mustache will make it easier. - Because my site is small, SmallCMS1 reads the entire content directory tree into a tree-like (duh) structure. URLs are matched by walking the in-memory tree using simple string matching. I was going to say this prevents the dot dot trick, but I thought I'd verify. Putting a halt in my code, I now notice that Firefox processes ".." before it sends the request, so SmallCMS1 doesn't see the ".." at all, at least when using Firefox. - Comment system is outsourced to Disqus. - I VNC into the image and use inspectors, workspaces, and browsers as SmallCMS1's admin interface. I run my own VPS so I have Unix command line access to the content directory. SmallCMS1 is thus quite tied to the way I work. I have not published SmallCMS1. Maybe SmallCMS2, if it ever happens... :-) Pierce
Thanks for the detailed explanation Pierce! And I understand perfectly, I have some internal stuff of my company that I work with the same style, and hard to publish. Regards! -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Eating-your-own-dog-food-Site-Blog-tp4817960p4819057.h... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On 07/04/15 10:28, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
if I want to create a site/blog in pharo⦠What do I use? I know that there is Pier, but when you check its webpage, the last update is in 2011. Pharo website is built with Marina, but when I check the repo, the last commit was done by me and it was 2 month ago. Will Marina continue to evolve? And is anyone else using Marina?
Pier is on CI, and just works. Once in a while something breaks and then we fix it. The PierAddons are also on ci, but are less used. Diego published how to use Bootstrap with Pier on the mailing list. That post might be hard to understand, Pier is very elegant but complex. Stephan
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Christophe Demarey -
Damien Cassou -
Dmitri Zagidulin -
garduino -
Norbert Hartl -
phil＠highoctane.be -
Pierce Ng -
Stephan Eggermont -
stepharo -
Yuriy Tymchuk