I would like to write a chapter about TDD, for a future book about Pharo. We can collaborate to do that. Jannik 2013/2/12 Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>

it is not a tutorial but there is a chapter on Sunit on the pharo by example. Hernan wilkinson did a package to provide a better TDD behavior in Pharo. You have also autotest by laurent laffont.

We were discussing that we would like to have a specific effort for 3.0 to improve the TDD feel of Pharo.

Stef

On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:36 PM, Hayatou Oumarou <hayaty55@yahoo.fr> wrote:

Hello all, Where can I find a good tuto on TDD? regards. ------------------------------------ Hayatou

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That's a great tutorial indeed, but where is TDD there? Best regards, Dennis Schetinin On Tuesday, 12 February 2013 г. at 12:44, Stan Shepherd wrote:

Steve Wessels made a great tutorial at: http://squeak.preeminent.org/tut2007/html/ ...Stan

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Stan Shepherd wrote:

It's all the way through, starting at: http://squeak.preeminent.org/tut2007/html/011.html It's what first switched me on to TDD.

Hayatou, I should have noted that this tutorial is all done in Squeak. If you ignore the details on setting up the environment and project, it should work fine in Pharo. ...Stan

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I also was going suggest Steve Wessels tutorial - though personally go for downloading Squeak 3.9 to match what the tutorial was done it. It would be really great to have this tutorial for Pharo 2.0.

this one shows tdd at work http://www.pharocasts.com/2011/03/build-xml-browser.html http://www.pharocasts.com/2010/01/starting-with-sunit-and-debugger.html -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Yeah, we don't need a 300-pages book for driving. 1. You get in the car and start engine. 2. You drive where you want. 3. Here you are! :D By the way, TDD requires to create only one test during an interation… Best regards, Dennis Schetinin On Wednesday, 13 February 2013 г. at 9:50, stephane ducasse wrote:

+ 1

we do not need 300 pages book for tdd :) 1 You write tests first there are red you commit you start writing your code so that tests are green when they are green you commit and take a rest. then go back point 1

One I wrote a little powerpoint slideMorph this way and it was fun. The code should be in SlideMorph on Squeaksource.

Then the environment can help you by creating on the fly method stubs and the rest. But the key principle is there.

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this one shows tdd at work

http://www.pharocasts.com/2011/03/build-xml-browser.html

http://www.pharocasts.com/2010/01/starting-with-sunit-and-debugger.html

On Wednesday, 13 February 2013 г. at 0:09, Igor Stasenko wrote:

this one shows tdd at work

http://www.pharocasts.com/2011/03/build-xml-browser.html I didn't find any test created here, though the idea is the one behind TDD, actually.

http://www.pharocasts.com/2010/01/starting-with-sunit-and-debugger.html

Apart from some issues, this one shows a simple TDD process pretty well. Nice tutorials, thank you for the links. I've missed them somehow. BTW, here's my attempt to show TDD + Smalltalk (it's VisualWorks though) in action :) http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF3CF058A662AB4D3

-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Best regards, Dennis Schetinin