What's wrong with latest Pharo?
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get: *Error: External module not found* It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You couldnât supply less information if you tried. /*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work. Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful. Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7? Tim Sent from my iPhone
On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich <jpfersich@gmail.com> wrote:
What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You couldnât supply less information if you tried.
/*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
Am 01.04.2019 um 08:10 schrieb Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works>:
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Sure and we donât put that on a public mailing list. If you want to get help you need to provide context. Norbert
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich <jpfersich@gmail.com> wrote:
What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You couldnât supply less information if you tried.
/*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment. The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04. This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04. Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying. The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us. At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.* How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone. I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine. Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich <
jpfersich@
> wrote:
What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You couldnât supply less information if you tried.
/*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <
horrido.hobbies@
> wrote:
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
Don't be silly, of course it works. Hundreds of people have these, 99% of all servers are Linux, as are 99% of all CI jobs. Running Linux servers requires a certain level of expertise. $ cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS \n \l $ uname -a Linux audio359 4.15.0-39-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 23 15:48:01 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux $ curl get.pharo.org/64/70+vm | bash % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 100 3054 100 3054 0 0 32147 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 32147 Downloading the latest 70 Image: http://files.pharo.org/get-files/70/pharo64.zip Pharo.image Downloading the latest pharoVM: http://files.pharo.org/get-files/70/pharo64-linux-stable.zip pharo-vm/pharo Creating starter scripts pharo and pharo-ui $ ./pharo Pharo.image printVersion [version] 'Pharo7.0.2' 'Pharo-7.0.2+build.152.sha.890f474a81f116ead0e68c8de77790aef4e9a752 (64 Bit)' $ ./pharo Pharo.image eval '42 factorial' 1405006117752879898543142606244511569936384000000000 Many people are about your age, BTW.
On 1 Apr 2019, at 15:06, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment.
The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying.
The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us.
At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.*
How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone.
I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine.
Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich <
jpfersich@
> wrote:
What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You couldnât supply less information if you tried.
/*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <
horrido.hobbies@
> wrote:
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
I am surprised you managed to make it work Sven, I tried some time ago but it wont work because of a problem with libcurl as far as I am concerned ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754686 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754294) <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754294> Was libcurl dependency removed from Pharo? On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 10:18 AM Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
Don't be silly, of course it works. Hundreds of people have these, 99% of all servers are Linux, as are 99% of all CI jobs.
Running Linux servers requires a certain level of expertise.
$ cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS \n \l
$ uname -a Linux audio359 4.15.0-39-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 23 15:48:01 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
$ curl get.pharo.org/64/70+vm | bash % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 100 3054 100 3054 0 0 32147 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 32147 Downloading the latest 70 Image: http://files.pharo.org/get-files/70/pharo64.zip Pharo.image Downloading the latest pharoVM: http://files.pharo.org/get-files/70/pharo64-linux-stable.zip pharo-vm/pharo Creating starter scripts pharo and pharo-ui
$ ./pharo Pharo.image printVersion [version] 'Pharo7.0.2' 'Pharo-7.0.2+build.152.sha.890f474a81f116ead0e68c8de77790aef4e9a752 (64 Bit)'
$ ./pharo Pharo.image eval '42 factorial' 1405006117752879898543142606244511569936384000000000
Many people are about your age, BTW.
On 1 Apr 2019, at 15:06, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment.
The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying.
The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us.
At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.*
How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone.
I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine.
Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich <
jpfersich@
> wrote:
What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You
couldnât
supply less information if you tried.
/*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <
horrido.hobbies@
> wrote:
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
This is basic Pharo I am talking about, not each and every plugin. $ ldd pharo-vm/lib/pharo/5.0-201901051900/pharo linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007fff789b2000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f010c0ee000) libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007f010bd50000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f010bb31000) libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f010b740000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f010c2f2000) libgit2 seems to be using libcurl (and many more) $ ldd pharo-vm/lib/pharo/5.0-201901051900/libgit2.so linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffc8dec3000) libcurl-gnutls.so.4 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4 (0x00007f4057393000) libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x00007f4057176000) libssl.so.1.0.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0 (0x00007f4056f0e000) libcrypto.so.1.0.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.1.0.0 (0x00007f4056acb000) libssh2.so.1 => not found librt.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1 (0x00007f40568c3000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f40566a4000) libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f40562b3000) libnghttp2.so.14 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnghttp2.so.14 (0x00007f405608e000) libidn2.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libidn2.so.0 (0x00007f4055e71000) librtmp.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librtmp.so.1 (0x00007f4055c55000) libpsl.so.5 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpsl.so.5 (0x00007f4055a47000) libnettle.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnettle.so.6 (0x00007f4055811000) libgnutls.so.30 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgnutls.so.30 (0x00007f40554ac000) libgssapi_krb5.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgssapi_krb5.so.2 (0x00007f4055261000) libldap_r-2.4.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libldap_r-2.4.so.2 (0x00007f405500f000) liblber-2.4.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/liblber-2.4.so.2 (0x00007f4054e01000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f4054bfd000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f4057953000) libunistring.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libunistring.so.2 (0x00007f405487f000) libhogweed.so.4 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhogweed.so.4 (0x00007f405464b000) libgmp.so.10 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgmp.so.10 (0x00007f40543ca000) libp11-kit.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libp11-kit.so.0 (0x00007f405409b000) libtasn1.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtasn1.so.6 (0x00007f4053e88000) libkrb5.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkrb5.so.3 (0x00007f4053bb2000) libk5crypto.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libk5crypto.so.3 (0x00007f4053980000) libcom_err.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcom_err.so.2 (0x00007f405377c000) libkrb5support.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkrb5support.so.0 (0x00007f4053571000) libresolv.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libresolv.so.2 (0x00007f4053356000) libsasl2.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsasl2.so.2 (0x00007f405313b000) libgssapi.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgssapi.so.3 (0x00007f4052efa000) libffi.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libffi.so.6 (0x00007f4052cf2000) libkeyutils.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1 (0x00007f4052aee000) libheimntlm.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libheimntlm.so.0 (0x00007f40528e5000) libkrb5.so.26 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkrb5.so.26 (0x00007f4052658000) libasn1.so.8 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libasn1.so.8 (0x00007f40523b6000) libhcrypto.so.4 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhcrypto.so.4 (0x00007f4052180000) libroken.so.18 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libroken.so.18 (0x00007f4051f6a000) libwind.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libwind.so.0 (0x00007f4051d41000) libheimbase.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libheimbase.so.1 (0x00007f4051b32000) libhx509.so.5 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhx509.so.5 (0x00007f40518e8000) libsqlite3.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsqlite3.so.0 (0x00007f40515df000) libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypt.so.1 (0x00007f40513a7000) libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007f4051009000)
On 1 Apr 2019, at 15:47, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com> wrote:
I am surprised you managed to make it work Sven, I tried some time ago but it wont work because of a problem with libcurl as far as I am concerned (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754686 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754294)
Was libcurl dependency removed from Pharo?
On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 10:18 AM Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote: Don't be silly, of course it works. Hundreds of people have these, 99% of all servers are Linux, as are 99% of all CI jobs.
Running Linux servers requires a certain level of expertise.
$ cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS \n \l
$ uname -a Linux audio359 4.15.0-39-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 23 15:48:01 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
$ curl get.pharo.org/64/70+vm | bash % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 100 3054 100 3054 0 0 32147 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 32147 Downloading the latest 70 Image: http://files.pharo.org/get-files/70/pharo64.zip Pharo.image Downloading the latest pharoVM: http://files.pharo.org/get-files/70/pharo64-linux-stable.zip pharo-vm/pharo Creating starter scripts pharo and pharo-ui
$ ./pharo Pharo.image printVersion [version] 'Pharo7.0.2' 'Pharo-7.0.2+build.152.sha.890f474a81f116ead0e68c8de77790aef4e9a752 (64 Bit)'
$ ./pharo Pharo.image eval '42 factorial' 1405006117752879898543142606244511569936384000000000
Many people are about your age, BTW.
On 1 Apr 2019, at 15:06, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment.
The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying.
The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us.
At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.*
How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone.
I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine.
Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich <
jpfersich@
> wrote:
What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You couldnât supply less information if you tried.
/*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <
horrido.hobbies@
> wrote:
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
You need to install curl in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, it isnât in the distro you download from Ubuntu. /*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Apr 1, 2019, at 06:47, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com> wrote:
I am surprised you managed to make it work Sven, I tried some time ago but it wont work because of a problem with libcurl as far as I am concerned (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754686 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754294)
Was libcurl dependency removed from Pharo?
On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 10:18 AM Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote: Don't be silly, of course it works. Hundreds of people have these, 99% of all servers are Linux, as are 99% of all CI jobs.
Running Linux servers requires a certain level of expertise.
$ cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS \n \l
$ uname -a Linux audio359 4.15.0-39-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 23 15:48:01 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
$ curl get.pharo.org/64/70+vm | bash % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 100 3054 100 3054 0 0 32147 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 32147 Downloading the latest 70 Image: http://files.pharo.org/get-files/70/pharo64.zip Pharo.image Downloading the latest pharoVM: http://files.pharo.org/get-files/70/pharo64-linux-stable.zip pharo-vm/pharo Creating starter scripts pharo and pharo-ui
$ ./pharo Pharo.image printVersion [version] 'Pharo7.0.2' 'Pharo-7.0.2+build.152.sha.890f474a81f116ead0e68c8de77790aef4e9a752 (64 Bit)'
$ ./pharo Pharo.image eval '42 factorial' 1405006117752879898543142606244511569936384000000000
Many people are about your age, BTW.
On 1 Apr 2019, at 15:06, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment.
The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying.
The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us.
At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.*
How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone.
I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine.
Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich <
jpfersich@
> wrote:
What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You couldnât supply less information if you tried.
/*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <
horrido.hobbies@
> wrote:
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
Hi Richard, please, don't be so pessimistic! I am sure that young man too can have the same problem! I can understand your filing as I am 77, but I hope we can do some good job again! Lorenzo -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] Per conto di horrido Inviato: lunedì 1 aprile 2019 15:07 A: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org Oggetto: Re: [Pharo-users] What's wrong with latest Pharo? This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment. The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04. This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04. Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying. The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us. At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.* How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone. I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine. Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich <
jpfersich@
> wrote:
What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You couldnât supply less information if you tried.
/*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <
horrido.hobbies@
> wrote:
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
Hi, Just install libcurl from your Linux distro package manager. Maybe this should be more promptly stated in the Linux install instructions. Cheers, Offray On 1/04/19 8:06 a. m., horrido wrote:
This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment.
The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying.
The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us.
At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.*
How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone.
I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine.
Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich < jpfersich@ > wrote: What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You couldnât supply less information if you tried.
/*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng < horrido.hobbies@ > wrote: I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is, IMHO, is royal piece of crap. Ubuntu seems to have abandoned programmers tools almost completely in 18.04. Iâve had more problems with support of programming tools in 18.04, more than even Windows. I have run âsudo apt installâ maybe 80 times to install tools and libraries. Ubuntu 18.04âs hardware support is also lame compared to 16.04. Personally , Iâm not surprised that Pharo doesnât run on 18.04. I stopped installing 18.04 on my new machines, after all 16.04 still has a few years of support going for it, and at least it works without hours of upgrading. /*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Apr 1, 2019, at 06:06, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment.
The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying.
The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us.
At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.*
How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone.
I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine.
Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich <
jpfersich@
> wrote:
What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You couldnât supply less information if you tried.
/*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <
horrido.hobbies@
> wrote:
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
I have Pharo 6.1 and Pharo 7.0 working in Ubuntu 18.04 with no trouble so far. I just downloaded the launcher from pharo.org and pulled the images down that way. One thing I do find annoying in Ubuntu 18.04 is the number of programs (like okular) that spew warning messages out the terminal. Pharo, sadly, is one of them. Whenever a debugger window comes up in Pharo there is spewage on the terminal. But it works. On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, john pfersich <jpfersich@gmail.com> wrote:
Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is, IMHO, is royal piece of crap. Ubuntu seems to have abandoned programmers tools almost completely in 18.04. Iâve had more problems with support of programming tools in 18.04, more than even Windows. I have run âsudo apt installâ maybe 80 times to install tools and libraries. Ubuntu 18.04âs hardware support is also lame compared to 16.04. Personally , Iâm not surprised that Pharo doesnât run on 18.04. I stopped installing 18.04 on my new machines, after all 16.04 still has a few years of support going for it, and at least it works without hours of upgrading.
/*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Apr 1, 2019, at 06:06, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment.
The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying.
The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us.
At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.*
How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone.
I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine.
Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich <
jpfersich@
> wrote:
What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You
couldnât
supply less information if you tried.
/*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <
horrido.hobbies@
> wrote:
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
Installing curl don't work because there is a conflict between curl version name used on Ubuntu and that used by Pharo, you can't install libcurl 3 and libcru4 together. Ubuntu 18 comes with libcurl4 and older software depending on libcurl3 broke with it. I tested with minidebian and it also failed. Richard, was you able to use Iceberg? It should only work if either Ubuntu fix this dependency problem with libcurl or Pharo started to use libcrl4. On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:50 AM Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com> wrote:
I have Pharo 6.1 and Pharo 7.0 working in Ubuntu 18.04 with no trouble so far. I just downloaded the launcher from pharo.org and pulled the images down that way.
One thing I do find annoying in Ubuntu 18.04 is the number of programs (like okular) that spew warning messages out the terminal. Pharo, sadly, is one of them. Whenever a debugger window comes up in Pharo there is spewage on the terminal. But it works.
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, john pfersich <jpfersich@gmail.com> wrote:
Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is, IMHO, is royal piece of crap. Ubuntu seems to have abandoned programmers tools almost completely in 18.04. Iâve had more problems with support of programming tools in 18.04, more than even Windows. I have run âsudo apt installâ maybe 80 times to install tools and libraries. Ubuntu 18.04âs hardware support is also lame compared to 16.04. Personally , Iâm not surprised that Pharo doesnât run on 18.04. I stopped installing 18.04 on my new machines, after all 16.04 still has a few years of support going for it, and at least it works without hours of upgrading.
/*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Apr 1, 2019, at 06:06, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment.
The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying.
The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us.
At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.*
How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone.
I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine.
Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich <
jpfersich@
> wrote:
What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You
couldnât
supply less information if you tried.
/*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <
horrido.hobbies@
> wrote:
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
I just did a complete reinstall of Ubuntu 18.4 on this laptop yesterday, and it did not come with any version of curl. uname -a => Linux Inspiron 4.18.0-16-generic #17~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 12 13:35:51 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 01:27, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com> wrote:
Installing curl don't work because there is a conflict between curl version name used on Ubuntu and that used by Pharo, you can't install libcurl 3 and libcru4 together. Ubuntu 18 comes with libcurl4 and older software depending on libcurl3 broke with it. I tested with minidebian and it also failed.
Richard, was you able to use Iceberg? It should only work if either Ubuntu fix this dependency problem with libcurl or Pharo started to use libcrl4.
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:50 AM Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com> wrote:
I have Pharo 6.1 and Pharo 7.0 working in Ubuntu 18.04 with no trouble so far. I just downloaded the launcher from pharo.org and pulled the images down that way.
One thing I do find annoying in Ubuntu 18.04 is the number of programs (like okular) that spew warning messages out the terminal. Pharo, sadly, is one of them. Whenever a debugger window comes up in Pharo there is spewage on the terminal. But it works.
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, john pfersich <jpfersich@gmail.com> wrote:
Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is, IMHO, is royal piece of crap. Ubuntu seems to have abandoned programmers tools almost completely in 18.04. Iâve had more problems with support of programming tools in 18.04, more than even Windows. I have run âsudo apt installâ maybe 80 times to install tools and libraries. Ubuntu 18.04âs hardware support is also lame compared to 16.04. Personally , Iâm not surprised that Pharo doesnât run on 18.04. I stopped installing 18.04 on my new machines, after all 16.04 still has a few years of support going for it, and at least it works without hours of upgrading.
/*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Apr 1, 2019, at 06:06, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment.
The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying.
The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us.
At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.*
How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone.
I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine.
Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich <
jpfersich@
> wrote:
What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You
couldnât
supply less information if you tried.
/*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <
horrido.hobbies@
> wrote:
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 05:09, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com> wrote:
I just did a complete reinstall of Ubuntu 18.4 on this laptop yesterday,
and it did not come with any version of curl.
What do you mean? Under WSL I have installed Ubuntu 18.4 and for... $ apt-cache search libcurl | less I see libcurl3 and libcurl4 cheers -ben
uname -a => Linux Inspiron 4.18.0-16-generic #17~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 12 13:35:51 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 01:27, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com> wrote:
Installing curl don't work because there is a conflict between curl version name used on Ubuntu and that used by Pharo, you can't install libcurl 3 and libcru4 together. Ubuntu 18 comes with libcurl4 and older software depending on libcurl3 broke with it. I tested with minidebian and it also failed.
Richard, was you able to use Iceberg? It should only work if either Ubuntu fix this dependency problem with libcurl or Pharo started to use libcrl4.
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:50 AM Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com> wrote:
I have Pharo 6.1 and Pharo 7.0 working in Ubuntu 18.04 with no trouble so far. I just downloaded the launcher from pharo.org and pulled the images down that way.
One thing I do find annoying in Ubuntu 18.04 is the number of programs (like okular) that spew warning messages out the terminal. Pharo, sadly, is one of them. Whenever a debugger window comes up in Pharo there is spewage on the terminal. But it works.
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, john pfersich <jpfersich@gmail.com> wrote:
Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is, IMHO, is royal piece of crap. Ubuntu seems to have abandoned programmers tools almost completely in 18.04. Iâve had more problems with support of programming tools in 18.04, more than even Windows. I have run âsudo apt installâ maybe 80 times to install tools and libraries. Ubuntu 18.04âs hardware support is also lame compared to 16.04. Personally , Iâm not surprised that Pharo doesnât run on 18.04. I stopped installing 18.04 on my new machines, after all 16.04 still has a few years of support going for it, and at least it works without hours of upgrading.
/*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Apr 1, 2019, at 06:06, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment.
The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying.
The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us.
At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.*
How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone.
I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine.
Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich <
jpfersich@
> wrote:
What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You
couldnât
supply less information if you tried.
/*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <
horrido.hobbies@
> wrote:
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
apt-cache search reports everything it knows about, not just things that are INSTALLED. For example, apt-cache search reports lua-curl-dev, but it is not installed. apt list | grep lua-curl-dev The fact that neither libcurl3 nor libcurl4 is initially installed means that either of them can be installed without conflict. On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 01:34, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 05:09, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com> wrote:
I just did a complete reinstall of Ubuntu 18.4 on this laptop yesterday,
and it did not come with any version of curl.
What do you mean? Under WSL I have installed Ubuntu 18.4 and for... $ apt-cache search libcurl | less I see libcurl3 and libcurl4
cheers -ben
uname -a => Linux Inspiron 4.18.0-16-generic #17~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 12 13:35:51 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 01:27, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com> wrote:
Installing curl don't work because there is a conflict between curl version name used on Ubuntu and that used by Pharo, you can't install libcurl 3 and libcru4 together. Ubuntu 18 comes with libcurl4 and older software depending on libcurl3 broke with it. I tested with minidebian and it also failed.
Richard, was you able to use Iceberg? It should only work if either Ubuntu fix this dependency problem with libcurl or Pharo started to use libcrl4.
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:50 AM Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com> wrote:
I have Pharo 6.1 and Pharo 7.0 working in Ubuntu 18.04 with no trouble so far. I just downloaded the launcher from pharo.org and pulled the images down that way.
One thing I do find annoying in Ubuntu 18.04 is the number of programs (like okular) that spew warning messages out the terminal. Pharo, sadly, is one of them. Whenever a debugger window comes up in Pharo there is spewage on the terminal. But it works.
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, john pfersich <jpfersich@gmail.com> wrote:
Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is, IMHO, is royal piece of crap. Ubuntu seems to have abandoned programmers tools almost completely in 18.04. Iâve had more problems with support of programming tools in 18.04, more than even Windows. I have run âsudo apt installâ maybe 80 times to install tools and libraries. Ubuntu 18.04âs hardware support is also lame compared to 16.04. Personally , Iâm not surprised that Pharo doesnât run on 18.04. I stopped installing 18.04 on my new machines, after all 16.04 still has a few years of support going for it, and at least it works without hours of upgrading.
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On Apr 1, 2019, at 06:06, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment.
The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying.
The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us.
At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.*
How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone.
I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine.
Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich <
jpfersich@
> wrote:
What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You
couldnât
supply less information if you tried.
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On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <
horrido.hobbies@
> wrote:
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
No, you can't install libcurl3 with libcurl4. There is a known conflict between them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754294, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=900511 Ubuntu 18.4 don't come with curl, but I think it comes with libcurl3 (I don't have means to verify it now), but when you install curl, it installs libcurl4 and removes libcurl3. On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 11:00 AM Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com> wrote:
apt-cache search reports everything it knows about, not just things that are INSTALLED. For example, apt-cache search reports lua-curl-dev, but it is not installed. apt list | grep lua-curl-dev
The fact that neither libcurl3 nor libcurl4 is initially installed means that either of them can be installed without conflict.
On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 01:34, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 05:09, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com> wrote:
I just did a complete reinstall of Ubuntu 18.4 on this laptop yesterday,
and it did not come with any version of curl.
What do you mean? Under WSL I have installed Ubuntu 18.4 and for... $ apt-cache search libcurl | less I see libcurl3 and libcurl4
cheers -ben
uname -a => Linux Inspiron 4.18.0-16-generic #17~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 12 13:35:51 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 01:27, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com> wrote:
Installing curl don't work because there is a conflict between curl version name used on Ubuntu and that used by Pharo, you can't install libcurl 3 and libcru4 together. Ubuntu 18 comes with libcurl4 and older software depending on libcurl3 broke with it. I tested with minidebian and it also failed.
Richard, was you able to use Iceberg? It should only work if either Ubuntu fix this dependency problem with libcurl or Pharo started to use libcrl4.
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:50 AM Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com> wrote:
I have Pharo 6.1 and Pharo 7.0 working in Ubuntu 18.04 with no trouble so far. I just downloaded the launcher from pharo.org and pulled the images down that way.
One thing I do find annoying in Ubuntu 18.04 is the number of programs (like okular) that spew warning messages out the terminal. Pharo, sadly, is one of them. Whenever a debugger window comes up in Pharo there is spewage on the terminal. But it works.
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, john pfersich <jpfersich@gmail.com> wrote:
Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is, IMHO, is royal piece of crap. Ubuntu seems to have abandoned programmers tools almost completely in 18.04. Iâve had more problems with support of programming tools in 18.04, more than even Windows. I have run âsudo apt installâ maybe 80 times to install tools and libraries. Ubuntu 18.04âs hardware support is also lame compared to 16.04. Personally , Iâm not surprised that Pharo doesnât run on 18.04. I stopped installing 18.04 on my new machines, after all 16.04 still has a few years of support going for it, and at least it works without hours of upgrading.
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On Apr 1, 2019, at 06:06, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment.
The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying.
The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us.
At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.*
How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone.
I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine.
Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich <
jpfersich@
> wrote:
What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You
couldnât
supply less information if you tried.
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On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <
horrido.hobbies@
> wrote:
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
Did we ever get the bottom of installing Pharo on linux? I have a user on Arch linux who installed pharo from AUR (this is new stuff to me) - and once they downloaded an image - they now get an error that looks suspiciously like this libgit2 debacle - so Iâm wondering what the solution was? The error is: External module not found ExternalLibraryFunction(Object)>>error: ExternalLibraryFunction(Object)>>externalCallFailed ExternalLibraryFunction(ExternalFunction)>>invokeWithArguments: LGitLibrary>>libgit2_init FFICalloutAPI>>function:module: LGitLibrary(Object)>>ffiCall: LGitLibrary>>libgit2_init [ self libgit2_init. self recordInitializationSuccess ] in LGitLibrary>>initializeLibGit2 in Block: [ self libgit2_init.... BlockClosure>>on:do: ...
On 4 Apr 2019, at 15:07, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com> wrote:
No, you can't install libcurl3 with libcurl4. There is a known conflict between them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754294 <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754294>, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=900511 <https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=900511>
Ubuntu 18.4 don't come with curl, but I think it comes with libcurl3 (I don't have means to verify it now), but when you install curl, it installs libcurl4 and removes libcurl3.
On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 11:00 AM Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com <mailto:raoknz@gmail.com>> wrote: apt-cache search reports everything it knows about, not just things that are INSTALLED. For example, apt-cache search reports lua-curl-dev, but it is not installed. apt list | grep lua-curl-dev
The fact that neither libcurl3 nor libcurl4 is initially installed means that either of them can be installed without conflict.
On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 01:34, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com <mailto:btc@openinworld.com>> wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 05:09, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com <mailto:raoknz@gmail.com>> wrote: I just did a complete reinstall of Ubuntu 18.4 on this laptop yesterday,
and it did not come with any version of curl.
What do you mean? Under WSL I have installed Ubuntu 18.4 and for... $ apt-cache search libcurl | less I see libcurl3 and libcurl4
cheers -ben
uname -a => Linux Inspiron 4.18.0-16-generic #17~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 12 13:35:51 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 01:27, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com <mailto:vitormcruz@gmail.com>> wrote: Installing curl don't work because there is a conflict between curl version name used on Ubuntu and that used by Pharo, you can't install libcurl 3 and libcru4 together. Ubuntu 18 comes with libcurl4 and older software depending on libcurl3 broke with it. I tested with minidebian and it also failed.
Richard, was you able to use Iceberg? It should only work if either Ubuntu fix this dependency problem with libcurl or Pharo started to use libcrl4.
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:50 AM Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com <mailto:raoknz@gmail.com>> wrote: I have Pharo 6.1 and Pharo 7.0 working in Ubuntu 18.04 with no trouble so far. I just downloaded the launcher from pharo.org <http://pharo.org/> and pulled the images down that way.
One thing I do find annoying in Ubuntu 18.04 is the number of programs (like okular) that spew warning messages out the terminal. Pharo, sadly, is one of them. Whenever a debugger window comes up in Pharo there is spewage on the terminal. But it works.
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, john pfersich <jpfersich@gmail.com <mailto:jpfersich@gmail.com>> wrote: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is, IMHO, is royal piece of crap. Ubuntu seems to have abandoned programmers tools almost completely in 18.04. Iâve had more problems with support of programming tools in 18.04, more than even Windows. I have run âsudo apt installâ maybe 80 times to install tools and libraries. Ubuntu 18.04âs hardware support is also lame compared to 16.04. Personally , Iâm not surprised that Pharo doesnât run on 18.04. I stopped installing 18.04 on my new machines, after all 16.04 still has a few years of support going for it, and at least it works without hours of upgrading.
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On Apr 1, 2019, at 06:06, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com <mailto:horrido.hobbies@gmail.com>> wrote:
This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment.
The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying.
The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us.
At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.*
How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone.
I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine.
Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich <
jpfersich@
> wrote:
What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You couldnât supply less information if you tried.
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On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <
horrido.hobbies@
> wrote:
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html>
Hi Tim, Looking at the resolution of the libgit library, I see that in pharo7 the following: LGitLibrary >> unixModuleName | pluginDir | pluginDir := Smalltalk vm binary parent. #('libgit2.so' 'libgit2.so.0') detect: [ :each | (pluginDir / each) exists ] ifFound: [ :libName | ^ libName ]. self error: 'Module not found.' That definition may be the root of the problem in linux because it is returning the unqualified library name without the VM path. Then, the order of resolution of libraries is the one in the operating system, which is in your case probably searching in /usr/lib or something like that. I'd bet that you have in your system (/usr/lib/something) another libgit version but probably not matching the expected version in pharo or the architecture of pharo (32/64 bits). Thus, pharo finds the library but cannot load it... If you check in Pharo8, the same method reads slightly different: LGitLibrary >> unixModuleName | pluginDir | pluginDir := Smalltalk vm binary parent. #('libgit2.so' 'libgit2.so.0') detect: [ :each | (pluginDir / each) exists ] ifFound: [ :libName | ^ (pluginDir / libName) fullName ]. self error: 'Module not found.' Can you check that patching the method like that works in your case? This maybe deserves a backporting as it may make it super complicated to work with Iceberg in some linuxes... On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 3:08 PM Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works> wrote:
Did we ever get the bottom of installing Pharo on linux? I have a user on Arch linux who installed pharo from AUR (this is new stuff to me) - and once they downloaded an image - they now get an error that looks suspiciously like this libgit2 debacle - so Iâm wondering what the solution was?
The error is:
External module not found ExternalLibraryFunction(Object)>>error: ExternalLibraryFunction(Object)>>externalCallFailed ExternalLibraryFunction(ExternalFunction)>>invokeWithArguments: LGitLibrary>>libgit2_init FFICalloutAPI>>function:module: LGitLibrary(Object)>>ffiCall: LGitLibrary>>libgit2_init [ self libgit2_init. self recordInitializationSuccess ] in LGitLibrary>>initializeLibGit2 in Block: [ self libgit2_init.... BlockClosure>>on:do:
...
On 4 Apr 2019, at 15:07, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com> wrote:
No, you can't install libcurl3 with libcurl4. There is a known conflict between them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754294, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=900511
Ubuntu 18.4 don't come with curl, but I think it comes with libcurl3 (I don't have means to verify it now), but when you install curl, it installs libcurl4 and removes libcurl3.
On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 11:00 AM Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com> wrote:
apt-cache search reports everything it knows about, not just things that are INSTALLED. For example, apt-cache search reports lua-curl-dev, but it is not installed. apt list | grep lua-curl-dev
The fact that neither libcurl3 nor libcurl4 is initially installed means that either of them can be installed without conflict.
On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 01:34, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 05:09, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com> wrote:
I just did a complete reinstall of Ubuntu 18.4 on this laptop yesterday,
and it did not come with any version of curl.
What do you mean? Under WSL I have installed Ubuntu 18.4 and for... $ apt-cache search libcurl | less I see libcurl3 and libcurl4
cheers -ben
uname -a => Linux Inspiron 4.18.0-16-generic #17~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 12 13:35:51 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 01:27, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com> wrote:
Installing curl don't work because there is a conflict between curl version name used on Ubuntu and that used by Pharo, you can't install libcurl 3 and libcru4 together. Ubuntu 18 comes with libcurl4 and older software depending on libcurl3 broke with it. I tested with minidebian and it also failed.
Richard, was you able to use Iceberg? It should only work if either Ubuntu fix this dependency problem with libcurl or Pharo started to use libcrl4.
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:50 AM Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com> wrote:
I have Pharo 6.1 and Pharo 7.0 working in Ubuntu 18.04 with no trouble so far. I just downloaded the launcher from pharo.org and pulled the images down that way.
One thing I do find annoying in Ubuntu 18.04 is the number of programs (like okular) that spew warning messages out the terminal. Pharo, sadly, is one of them. Whenever a debugger window comes up in Pharo there is spewage on the terminal. But it works.
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, john pfersich <jpfersich@gmail.com> wrote:
Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is, IMHO, is royal piece of crap. Ubuntu seems to have abandoned programmers tools almost completely in 18.04. Iâve had more problems with support of programming tools in 18.04, more than even Windows. I have run âsudo apt installâ maybe 80 times to install tools and libraries. Ubuntu 18.04âs hardware support is also lame compared to 16.04. Personally , Iâm not surprised that Pharo doesnât run on 18.04. I stopped installing 18.04 on my new machines, after all 16.04 still has a few years of support going for it, and at least it works without hours of upgrading.
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On Apr 1, 2019, at 06:06, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment.
The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying.
The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us.
At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.*
How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone.
I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine.
Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich <
jpfersich@
> wrote:
What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You
couldnât
supply less information if you tried.
/*âââââââââââââââââ-*/ Sent from my iPhone https://boincstats.com/signature/-1/user/51616339056/sig.png See https://objectnets.net and https://objectnets.org
On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <
horrido.hobbies@
> wrote:
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I
get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
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Hi Guille - Iâm not using Arch Linux myself - this was a seasoned exercism contributor trying to give pharo a spin - and sadly it hasnât gone well (shame as they might have been an advocate) They also commented: "I'm not quite sure though if I really want to continue from here. As someone new to pharo, I basically can't find any installation instructions that go beyond that evil `curl`. I'm happy to play this to the end with you, that at least exercism gets proper instructions, but the pharo community really should change their mind and provide more and better documentation about systemwide installation and packages. I have a hard time seeing something used at my compnay that does not provide an RPM out of the boxâ¦â Which is fair play. However I did get some details which might salvage something (and maybe they can try) Its ArchLinux (apparently there are no versions in Arch, its always the latest). Pharo wa installed via AUR (looks like a bit old - 2019-01-24 18:18) - not sure that is the issue though AUR does give an image so they downloaded the latest 64 bit one from here - https://files.pharo.org/image/70/ Libgit2 was missing - that was installed (not clear on how - could ask) After all of this - it did launch - they saw a welcome screen then it crashed (I think they were doing our eval string to metacello load exercism - so it would then use libgit2) They then got this error: https://pastebin.com/W2D86ZS4 Iâve pasted the error below - for prosperity. Tim Pharo VM version: 5.0-201901231209 Wed Jan 23 12:32:13 UTC 2019 gcc 4.8 [Production Spur 64-bit VM] Built from: CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.2509 uuid: 91e81f64-95de-4914-a960-8f842be3a194 Jan 23 2019 With: StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-eem.2509 uuid: 91e81f64-95de-4914-a960-8f842be3a194 Jan 23 2019 Revision: VM: 201901231209 https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git Date: Wed Jan 23 07:09:49 2019 CommitHash: a4b2dfa6 Plugins: 201901231209 https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git Build host: Linux travis-job-3a8f8935-e791-48da-aa41-2eccc2452870 4.4.0-101-generic #124~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Nov 10 19:05:36 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux plugin path: /opt/pharo/bin [default: /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/] C stack backtrace & registers: rax 0x00000000 rbx 0x7f4aacbce700 rcx 0x00000000 rdx 0x00000014 rdi 0x00000000 rsi 0x00000000 rbp 0x00000000 rsp 0x7fffdc831d00 r8 0x00000000 r9 0x7f4aacbbce22 r10 0x00000006 r11 0x7fffdc831d08 r12 0x00000040 r13 0x00000014 r14 0x00000000 r15 0x7f4aacbbce22 rip 0x7f4aac72f3b9 */lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(BN_num_bits+0x9)[0x7f4aac72f3b9] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x41b0d3] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x41cb2e] /lib/libpthread.so.0(+0x124d0)[0x7f4aaeb2d4d0] /lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(BN_num_bits+0x9)[0x7f4aac72f3b9] /lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(RSA_size+0xe)[0x7f4aac81fa5e] /lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(+0x1b43b6)[0x7f4aac8273b6] /lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(RSA_verify+0x2b)[0x7f4aac82777b] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0x2c2df)[0x7f4aac4672df] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0xabbf)[0x7f4aac445bbf] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0xe377)[0x7f4aac449377] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0xffbe)[0x7f4aac44afbe] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0x11cb6)[0x7f4aac44ccb6] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0x1ad00)[0x7f4aac455d00] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(libssh2_session_handshake+0x2e)[0x7f4aac455f8f] /lib/libgit2.so(+0xc3265)[0x7f4aacb33265] /lib/libgit2.so(+0xbf06b)[0x7f4aacb2f06b] /lib/libgit2.so(git_remote_connect+0x166)[0x7f4aacb0bf66] /lib/libgit2.so(git_remote_fetch+0x97)[0x7f4aacb0d417] /lib/libgit2.so(git_clone+0x36a)[0x7f4aaca9c4ea] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x4cacb6] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x4585f7] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x45a667] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo(ceSendsupertonumArgs+0x265)[0x45c4b5] [0x1f00100] [0x7f4aacbcc7b0] Smalltalk stack dump: 0x7fffdc85b750 M LGitRepository>clone:url:local_path:options: 0x246e7f0: a(n) LGitRepository 0x7fffdc85b7d0 I FFICalloutAPI>function:module: 0x25189e8: a(n) FFICalloutAPI 0x7fffdc85b820 I LGitRepository(LGitExternalObject)>callUnchecked:options: 0x246e7f0: a(n) LGitRepository 0x7fffdc85b870 I 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On 30 Apr 2019, at 15:18, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tim,
Looking at the resolution of the libgit library, I see that in pharo7 the following:
LGitLibrary >> unixModuleName | pluginDir | pluginDir := Smalltalk vm binary parent. #('libgit2.so' 'libgit2.so.0') detect: [ :each | (pluginDir / each) exists ] ifFound: [ :libName | ^ libName ].
self error: 'Module not found.'
That definition may be the root of the problem in linux because it is returning the unqualified library name without the VM path. Then, the order of resolution of libraries is the one in the operating system, which is in your case probably searching in /usr/lib or something like that. I'd bet that you have in your system (/usr/lib/something) another libgit version but probably not matching the expected version in pharo or the architecture of pharo (32/64 bits). Thus, pharo finds the library but cannot load it...
If you check in Pharo8, the same method reads slightly different:
LGitLibrary >> unixModuleName | pluginDir | pluginDir := Smalltalk vm binary parent. #('libgit2.so' 'libgit2.so.0') detect: [ :each | (pluginDir / each) exists ] ifFound: [ :libName | ^ (pluginDir / libName) fullName ].
self error: 'Module not found.'
Can you check that patching the method like that works in your case? This maybe deserves a backporting as it may make it super complicated to work with Iceberg in some linuxes...
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 3:08 PM Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works> wrote: Did we ever get the bottom of installing Pharo on linux? I have a user on Arch linux who installed pharo from AUR (this is new stuff to me) - and once they downloaded an image - they now get an error that looks suspiciously like this libgit2 debacle - so Iâm wondering what the solution was?
The error is:
External module not found ExternalLibraryFunction(Object)>>error: ExternalLibraryFunction(Object)>>externalCallFailed ExternalLibraryFunction(ExternalFunction)>>invokeWithArguments: LGitLibrary>>libgit2_init FFICalloutAPI>>function:module: LGitLibrary(Object)>>ffiCall: LGitLibrary>>libgit2_init [ self libgit2_init. self recordInitializationSuccess ] in LGitLibrary>>initializeLibGit2 in Block: [ self libgit2_init.... BlockClosure>>on:do:
...
On 4 Apr 2019, at 15:07, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com <mailto:vitormcruz@gmail.com>> wrote:
No, you can't install libcurl3 with libcurl4. There is a known conflict between them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754294 <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754294>, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=900511 <https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=900511>
Ubuntu 18.4 don't come with curl, but I think it comes with libcurl3 (I don't have means to verify it now), but when you install curl, it installs libcurl4 and removes libcurl3.
On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 11:00 AM Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com <mailto:raoknz@gmail.com>> wrote: apt-cache search reports everything it knows about, not just things that are INSTALLED. For example, apt-cache search reports lua-curl-dev, but it is not installed. apt list | grep lua-curl-dev
The fact that neither libcurl3 nor libcurl4 is initially installed means that either of them can be installed without conflict.
On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 01:34, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com <mailto:btc@openinworld.com>> wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 05:09, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com <mailto:raoknz@gmail.com>> wrote: I just did a complete reinstall of Ubuntu 18.4 on this laptop yesterday,
and it did not come with any version of curl.
What do you mean? Under WSL I have installed Ubuntu 18.4 and for... $ apt-cache search libcurl | less I see libcurl3 and libcurl4
cheers -ben
uname -a => Linux Inspiron 4.18.0-16-generic #17~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 12 13:35:51 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 01:27, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com <mailto:vitormcruz@gmail.com>> wrote: Installing curl don't work because there is a conflict between curl version name used on Ubuntu and that used by Pharo, you can't install libcurl 3 and libcru4 together. Ubuntu 18 comes with libcurl4 and older software depending on libcurl3 broke with it. I tested with minidebian and it also failed.
Richard, was you able to use Iceberg? It should only work if either Ubuntu fix this dependency problem with libcurl or Pharo started to use libcrl4.
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:50 AM Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com <mailto:raoknz@gmail.com>> wrote: I have Pharo 6.1 and Pharo 7.0 working in Ubuntu 18.04 with no trouble so far. I just downloaded the launcher from pharo.org <http://pharo.org/> and pulled the images down that way.
One thing I do find annoying in Ubuntu 18.04 is the number of programs (like okular) that spew warning messages out the terminal. Pharo, sadly, is one of them. Whenever a debugger window comes up in Pharo there is spewage on the terminal. But it works.
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, john pfersich <jpfersich@gmail.com <mailto:jpfersich@gmail.com>> wrote: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is, IMHO, is royal piece of crap. Ubuntu seems to have abandoned programmers tools almost completely in 18.04. Iâve had more problems with support of programming tools in 18.04, more than even Windows. I have run âsudo apt installâ maybe 80 times to install tools and libraries. Ubuntu 18.04âs hardware support is also lame compared to 16.04. Personally , Iâm not surprised that Pharo doesnât run on 18.04. I stopped installing 18.04 on my new machines, after all 16.04 still has a few years of support going for it, and at least it works without hours of upgrading.
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On Apr 1, 2019, at 06:06, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com <mailto:horrido.hobbies@gmail.com>> wrote:
This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment.
The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying.
The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us.
At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.*
How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone.
I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine.
Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
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On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich <
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What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You couldnât supply less information if you tried.
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On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <
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I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
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Actually - the user has confirmed a bit more (which sounds like your hunch Guille): Hmm⦠Just loading the image without `eval`ing something seems to boot up well. But then I also realise, that there is a warning: ```ioLoadModule(/opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libgit2.so): libcurl-gnutls.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory``` (edited) So this looks like pharo tries to load a bundled libgit2 first during bootup which fails and only later, when trying to call into it, system resolves into the system installed one. Which then causes the segfault for some reason. Iâll see if I can guide him through changing that method. Tim
On 30 Apr 2019, at 15:53, Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works> wrote:
Hi Guille - Iâm not using Arch Linux myself - this was a seasoned exercism contributor trying to give pharo a spin - and sadly it hasnât gone well (shame as they might have been an advocate) They also commented:
"I'm not quite sure though if I really want to continue from here. As someone new to pharo, I basically can't find any installation instructions that go beyond that evil `curl`. I'm happy to play this to the end with you, that at least exercism gets proper instructions, but the pharo community really should change their mind and provide more and better documentation about systemwide installation and packages. I have a hard time seeing something used at my compnay that does not provide an RPM out of the boxâ¦â
Which is fair play.
However I did get some details which might salvage something (and maybe they can try)
Its ArchLinux (apparently there are no versions in Arch, its always the latest). Pharo wa installed via AUR (looks like a bit old - 2019-01-24 18:18) - not sure that is the issue though AUR does give an image so they downloaded the latest 64 bit one from here - https://files.pharo.org/image/70/ <https://files.pharo.org/image/70/> Libgit2 was missing - that was installed (not clear on how - could ask)
After all of this - it did launch - they saw a welcome screen then it crashed (I think they were doing our eval string to metacello load exercism - so it would then use libgit2)
They then got this error: https://pastebin.com/W2D86ZS4 <https://pastebin.com/W2D86ZS4>
Iâve pasted the error below - for prosperity.
Tim
Pharo VM version: 5.0-201901231209 Wed Jan 23 12:32:13 UTC 2019 gcc 4.8 [Production Spur 64-bit VM] Built from: CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.2509 uuid: 91e81f64-95de-4914-a960-8f842be3a194 Jan 23 2019 With: StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-eem.2509 uuid: 91e81f64-95de-4914-a960-8f842be3a194 Jan 23 2019 Revision: VM: 201901231209 https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git <https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git> Date: Wed Jan 23 07:09:49 2019 CommitHash: a4b2dfa6 Plugins: 201901231209 https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git <https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git> Build host: Linux travis-job-3a8f8935-e791-48da-aa41-2eccc2452870 4.4.0-101-generic #124~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Nov 10 19:05:36 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux plugin path: /opt/pharo/bin [default: /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/]
C stack backtrace & registers: rax 0x00000000 rbx 0x7f4aacbce700 rcx 0x00000000 rdx 0x00000014 rdi 0x00000000 rsi 0x00000000 rbp 0x00000000 rsp 0x7fffdc831d00 r8 0x00000000 r9 0x7f4aacbbce22 r10 0x00000006 r11 0x7fffdc831d08 r12 0x00000040 r13 0x00000014 r14 0x00000000 r15 0x7f4aacbbce22 rip 0x7f4aac72f3b9 */lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(BN_num_bits+0x9)[0x7f4aac72f3b9] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x41b0d3] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x41cb2e] /lib/libpthread.so.0(+0x124d0)[0x7f4aaeb2d4d0] /lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(BN_num_bits+0x9)[0x7f4aac72f3b9] /lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(RSA_size+0xe)[0x7f4aac81fa5e] /lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(+0x1b43b6)[0x7f4aac8273b6] /lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(RSA_verify+0x2b)[0x7f4aac82777b] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0x2c2df)[0x7f4aac4672df] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0xabbf)[0x7f4aac445bbf] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0xe377)[0x7f4aac449377] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0xffbe)[0x7f4aac44afbe] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0x11cb6)[0x7f4aac44ccb6] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0x1ad00)[0x7f4aac455d00] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(libssh2_session_handshake+0x2e)[0x7f4aac455f8f] /lib/libgit2.so(+0xc3265)[0x7f4aacb33265] /lib/libgit2.so(+0xbf06b)[0x7f4aacb2f06b] /lib/libgit2.so(git_remote_connect+0x166)[0x7f4aacb0bf66] /lib/libgit2.so(git_remote_fetch+0x97)[0x7f4aacb0d417] /lib/libgit2.so(git_clone+0x36a)[0x7f4aaca9c4ea] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x4cacb6] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x4585f7] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x45a667] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo(ceSendsupertonumArgs+0x265)[0x45c4b5] [0x1f00100] [0x7f4aacbcc7b0]
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stack page bytes 8192 available headroom 5576 minimum unused headroom 5936
(Segmentation fault)
On 30 Apr 2019, at 15:18, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito@gmail.com <mailto:guillermopolito@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Tim,
Looking at the resolution of the libgit library, I see that in pharo7 the following:
LGitLibrary >> unixModuleName | pluginDir | pluginDir := Smalltalk vm binary parent. #('libgit2.so' 'libgit2.so.0') detect: [ :each | (pluginDir / each) exists ] ifFound: [ :libName | ^ libName ].
self error: 'Module not found.'
That definition may be the root of the problem in linux because it is returning the unqualified library name without the VM path. Then, the order of resolution of libraries is the one in the operating system, which is in your case probably searching in /usr/lib or something like that. I'd bet that you have in your system (/usr/lib/something) another libgit version but probably not matching the expected version in pharo or the architecture of pharo (32/64 bits). Thus, pharo finds the library but cannot load it...
If you check in Pharo8, the same method reads slightly different:
LGitLibrary >> unixModuleName | pluginDir | pluginDir := Smalltalk vm binary parent. #('libgit2.so' 'libgit2.so.0') detect: [ :each | (pluginDir / each) exists ] ifFound: [ :libName | ^ (pluginDir / libName) fullName ].
self error: 'Module not found.'
Can you check that patching the method like that works in your case? This maybe deserves a backporting as it may make it super complicated to work with Iceberg in some linuxes...
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 3:08 PM Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works <mailto:tim@testit.works>> wrote: Did we ever get the bottom of installing Pharo on linux? I have a user on Arch linux who installed pharo from AUR (this is new stuff to me) - and once they downloaded an image - they now get an error that looks suspiciously like this libgit2 debacle - so Iâm wondering what the solution was?
The error is:
External module not found ExternalLibraryFunction(Object)>>error: ExternalLibraryFunction(Object)>>externalCallFailed ExternalLibraryFunction(ExternalFunction)>>invokeWithArguments: LGitLibrary>>libgit2_init FFICalloutAPI>>function:module: LGitLibrary(Object)>>ffiCall: LGitLibrary>>libgit2_init [ self libgit2_init. self recordInitializationSuccess ] in LGitLibrary>>initializeLibGit2 in Block: [ self libgit2_init.... BlockClosure>>on:do:
...
On 4 Apr 2019, at 15:07, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com <mailto:vitormcruz@gmail.com>> wrote:
No, you can't install libcurl3 with libcurl4. There is a known conflict between them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754294 <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754294>, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=900511 <https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=900511>
Ubuntu 18.4 don't come with curl, but I think it comes with libcurl3 (I don't have means to verify it now), but when you install curl, it installs libcurl4 and removes libcurl3.
On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 11:00 AM Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com <mailto:raoknz@gmail.com>> wrote: apt-cache search reports everything it knows about, not just things that are INSTALLED. For example, apt-cache search reports lua-curl-dev, but it is not installed. apt list | grep lua-curl-dev
The fact that neither libcurl3 nor libcurl4 is initially installed means that either of them can be installed without conflict.
On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 01:34, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com <mailto:btc@openinworld.com>> wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 05:09, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com <mailto:raoknz@gmail.com>> wrote: I just did a complete reinstall of Ubuntu 18.4 on this laptop yesterday,
and it did not come with any version of curl.
What do you mean? Under WSL I have installed Ubuntu 18.4 and for... $ apt-cache search libcurl | less I see libcurl3 and libcurl4
cheers -ben
uname -a => Linux Inspiron 4.18.0-16-generic #17~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 12 13:35:51 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 01:27, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com <mailto:vitormcruz@gmail.com>> wrote: Installing curl don't work because there is a conflict between curl version name used on Ubuntu and that used by Pharo, you can't install libcurl 3 and libcru4 together. Ubuntu 18 comes with libcurl4 and older software depending on libcurl3 broke with it. I tested with minidebian and it also failed.
Richard, was you able to use Iceberg? It should only work if either Ubuntu fix this dependency problem with libcurl or Pharo started to use libcrl4.
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:50 AM Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com <mailto:raoknz@gmail.com>> wrote: I have Pharo 6.1 and Pharo 7.0 working in Ubuntu 18.04 with no trouble so far. I just downloaded the launcher from pharo.org <http://pharo.org/> and pulled the images down that way.
One thing I do find annoying in Ubuntu 18.04 is the number of programs (like okular) that spew warning messages out the terminal. Pharo, sadly, is one of them. Whenever a debugger window comes up in Pharo there is spewage on the terminal. But it works.
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, john pfersich <jpfersich@gmail.com <mailto:jpfersich@gmail.com>> wrote: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is, IMHO, is royal piece of crap. Ubuntu seems to have abandoned programmers tools almost completely in 18.04. Iâve had more problems with support of programming tools in 18.04, more than even Windows. I have run âsudo apt installâ maybe 80 times to install tools and libraries. Ubuntu 18.04âs hardware support is also lame compared to 16.04. Personally , Iâm not surprised that Pharo doesnât run on 18.04. I stopped installing 18.04 on my new machines, after all 16.04 still has a few years of support going for it, and at least it works without hours of upgrading.
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On Apr 1, 2019, at 06:06, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com <mailto:horrido.hobbies@gmail.com>> wrote:
This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment.
The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying.
The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us.
At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.*
How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone.
I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine.
Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
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What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You couldnât supply less information if you tried.
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On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <
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I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
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Guille - it looks like modifying that method and : "I installed some other package (`libcurl-gnutls`) which is an "addon" to the regular `libcurl`.â Got us further - now heâs getting IceAuthenticationError- which could be down to git vs https. (I can use the #remoteTypeSelector: trick to hopefully fix that). When I confirm everything, I will report back the magic syntax (at least for Arch) - as well as the desire to back port that fix to 7. Thanks for chipping in (and this is the thread that keeps on givingâ¦) Tim
On 30 Apr 2019, at 16:08, Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works> wrote:
Actually - the user has confirmed a bit more (which sounds like your hunch Guille):
Hmm⦠Just loading the image without `eval`ing something seems to boot up well. But then I also realise, that there is a warning:
```ioLoadModule(/opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libgit2.so): libcurl-gnutls.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory``` (edited)
So this looks like pharo tries to load a bundled libgit2 first during bootup which fails and only later, when trying to call into it, system resolves into the system installed one. Which then causes the segfault for some reason.
Iâll see if I can guide him through changing that method.
Tim
On 30 Apr 2019, at 15:53, Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works <mailto:tim@testit.works>> wrote:
Hi Guille - Iâm not using Arch Linux myself - this was a seasoned exercism contributor trying to give pharo a spin - and sadly it hasnât gone well (shame as they might have been an advocate) They also commented:
"I'm not quite sure though if I really want to continue from here. As someone new to pharo, I basically can't find any installation instructions that go beyond that evil `curl`. I'm happy to play this to the end with you, that at least exercism gets proper instructions, but the pharo community really should change their mind and provide more and better documentation about systemwide installation and packages. I have a hard time seeing something used at my compnay that does not provide an RPM out of the boxâ¦â
Which is fair play.
However I did get some details which might salvage something (and maybe they can try)
Its ArchLinux (apparently there are no versions in Arch, its always the latest). Pharo wa installed via AUR (looks like a bit old - 2019-01-24 18:18) - not sure that is the issue though AUR does give an image so they downloaded the latest 64 bit one from here - https://files.pharo.org/image/70/ <https://files.pharo.org/image/70/> Libgit2 was missing - that was installed (not clear on how - could ask)
After all of this - it did launch - they saw a welcome screen then it crashed (I think they were doing our eval string to metacello load exercism - so it would then use libgit2)
They then got this error: https://pastebin.com/W2D86ZS4 <https://pastebin.com/W2D86ZS4>
Iâve pasted the error below - for prosperity.
Tim
Pharo VM version: 5.0-201901231209 Wed Jan 23 12:32:13 UTC 2019 gcc 4.8 [Production Spur 64-bit VM] Built from: CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.2509 uuid: 91e81f64-95de-4914-a960-8f842be3a194 Jan 23 2019 With: StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-eem.2509 uuid: 91e81f64-95de-4914-a960-8f842be3a194 Jan 23 2019 Revision: VM: 201901231209 https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git <https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git> Date: Wed Jan 23 07:09:49 2019 CommitHash: a4b2dfa6 Plugins: 201901231209 https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git <https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git> Build host: Linux travis-job-3a8f8935-e791-48da-aa41-2eccc2452870 4.4.0-101-generic #124~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Nov 10 19:05:36 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux plugin path: /opt/pharo/bin [default: /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/]
C stack backtrace & registers: rax 0x00000000 rbx 0x7f4aacbce700 rcx 0x00000000 rdx 0x00000014 rdi 0x00000000 rsi 0x00000000 rbp 0x00000000 rsp 0x7fffdc831d00 r8 0x00000000 r9 0x7f4aacbbce22 r10 0x00000006 r11 0x7fffdc831d08 r12 0x00000040 r13 0x00000014 r14 0x00000000 r15 0x7f4aacbbce22 rip 0x7f4aac72f3b9 */lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(BN_num_bits+0x9)[0x7f4aac72f3b9] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x41b0d3] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x41cb2e] /lib/libpthread.so.0(+0x124d0)[0x7f4aaeb2d4d0] /lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(BN_num_bits+0x9)[0x7f4aac72f3b9] /lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(RSA_size+0xe)[0x7f4aac81fa5e] /lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(+0x1b43b6)[0x7f4aac8273b6] /lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(RSA_verify+0x2b)[0x7f4aac82777b] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0x2c2df)[0x7f4aac4672df] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0xabbf)[0x7f4aac445bbf] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0xe377)[0x7f4aac449377] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0xffbe)[0x7f4aac44afbe] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0x11cb6)[0x7f4aac44ccb6] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0x1ad00)[0x7f4aac455d00] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(libssh2_session_handshake+0x2e)[0x7f4aac455f8f] /lib/libgit2.so(+0xc3265)[0x7f4aacb33265] /lib/libgit2.so(+0xbf06b)[0x7f4aacb2f06b] /lib/libgit2.so(git_remote_connect+0x166)[0x7f4aacb0bf66] /lib/libgit2.so(git_remote_fetch+0x97)[0x7f4aacb0d417] /lib/libgit2.so(git_clone+0x36a)[0x7f4aaca9c4ea] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x4cacb6] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x4585f7] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x45a667] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo(ceSendsupertonumArgs+0x265)[0x45c4b5] [0x1f00100] [0x7f4aacbcc7b0]
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On 30 Apr 2019, at 15:18, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito@gmail.com <mailto:guillermopolito@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Tim,
Looking at the resolution of the libgit library, I see that in pharo7 the following:
LGitLibrary >> unixModuleName | pluginDir | pluginDir := Smalltalk vm binary parent. #('libgit2.so' 'libgit2.so.0') detect: [ :each | (pluginDir / each) exists ] ifFound: [ :libName | ^ libName ].
self error: 'Module not found.'
That definition may be the root of the problem in linux because it is returning the unqualified library name without the VM path. Then, the order of resolution of libraries is the one in the operating system, which is in your case probably searching in /usr/lib or something like that. I'd bet that you have in your system (/usr/lib/something) another libgit version but probably not matching the expected version in pharo or the architecture of pharo (32/64 bits). Thus, pharo finds the library but cannot load it...
If you check in Pharo8, the same method reads slightly different:
LGitLibrary >> unixModuleName | pluginDir | pluginDir := Smalltalk vm binary parent. #('libgit2.so' 'libgit2.so.0') detect: [ :each | (pluginDir / each) exists ] ifFound: [ :libName | ^ (pluginDir / libName) fullName ].
self error: 'Module not found.'
Can you check that patching the method like that works in your case? This maybe deserves a backporting as it may make it super complicated to work with Iceberg in some linuxes...
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 3:08 PM Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works <mailto:tim@testit.works>> wrote: Did we ever get the bottom of installing Pharo on linux? I have a user on Arch linux who installed pharo from AUR (this is new stuff to me) - and once they downloaded an image - they now get an error that looks suspiciously like this libgit2 debacle - so Iâm wondering what the solution was?
The error is:
External module not found ExternalLibraryFunction(Object)>>error: ExternalLibraryFunction(Object)>>externalCallFailed ExternalLibraryFunction(ExternalFunction)>>invokeWithArguments: LGitLibrary>>libgit2_init FFICalloutAPI>>function:module: LGitLibrary(Object)>>ffiCall: LGitLibrary>>libgit2_init [ self libgit2_init. self recordInitializationSuccess ] in LGitLibrary>>initializeLibGit2 in Block: [ self libgit2_init.... BlockClosure>>on:do:
...
On 4 Apr 2019, at 15:07, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com <mailto:vitormcruz@gmail.com>> wrote:
No, you can't install libcurl3 with libcurl4. There is a known conflict between them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754294 <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754294>, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=900511 <https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=900511>
Ubuntu 18.4 don't come with curl, but I think it comes with libcurl3 (I don't have means to verify it now), but when you install curl, it installs libcurl4 and removes libcurl3.
On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 11:00 AM Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com <mailto:raoknz@gmail.com>> wrote: apt-cache search reports everything it knows about, not just things that are INSTALLED. For example, apt-cache search reports lua-curl-dev, but it is not installed. apt list | grep lua-curl-dev
The fact that neither libcurl3 nor libcurl4 is initially installed means that either of them can be installed without conflict.
On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 01:34, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com <mailto:btc@openinworld.com>> wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 05:09, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com <mailto:raoknz@gmail.com>> wrote: I just did a complete reinstall of Ubuntu 18.4 on this laptop yesterday,
and it did not come with any version of curl.
What do you mean? Under WSL I have installed Ubuntu 18.4 and for... $ apt-cache search libcurl | less I see libcurl3 and libcurl4
cheers -ben
uname -a => Linux Inspiron 4.18.0-16-generic #17~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 12 13:35:51 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 01:27, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com <mailto:vitormcruz@gmail.com>> wrote: Installing curl don't work because there is a conflict between curl version name used on Ubuntu and that used by Pharo, you can't install libcurl 3 and libcru4 together. Ubuntu 18 comes with libcurl4 and older software depending on libcurl3 broke with it. I tested with minidebian and it also failed.
Richard, was you able to use Iceberg? It should only work if either Ubuntu fix this dependency problem with libcurl or Pharo started to use libcrl4.
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:50 AM Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com <mailto:raoknz@gmail.com>> wrote: I have Pharo 6.1 and Pharo 7.0 working in Ubuntu 18.04 with no trouble so far. I just downloaded the launcher from pharo.org <http://pharo.org/> and pulled the images down that way.
One thing I do find annoying in Ubuntu 18.04 is the number of programs (like okular) that spew warning messages out the terminal. Pharo, sadly, is one of them. Whenever a debugger window comes up in Pharo there is spewage on the terminal. But it works.
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, john pfersich <jpfersich@gmail.com <mailto:jpfersich@gmail.com>> wrote: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is, IMHO, is royal piece of crap. Ubuntu seems to have abandoned programmers tools almost completely in 18.04. Iâve had more problems with support of programming tools in 18.04, more than even Windows. I have run âsudo apt installâ maybe 80 times to install tools and libraries. Ubuntu 18.04âs hardware support is also lame compared to 16.04. Personally , Iâm not surprised that Pharo doesnât run on 18.04. I stopped installing 18.04 on my new machines, after all 16.04 still has a few years of support going for it, and at least it works without hours of upgrading.
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On Apr 1, 2019, at 06:06, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com <mailto:horrido.hobbies@gmail.com>> wrote:
This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment.
The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying.
The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us.
At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.*
How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone.
I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine.
Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
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What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You couldnât supply less information if you tried.
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I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
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Oh well - even after modifying that method and trying the remoteTypeSelector: trick it insists on giving the iceAuthenticationError - so maybe the libcurl2 install didnât work (he said he had to install "libcurl-gnutlsâ to get that far). Interestingly - my osx setup has suddenly starting giving me an IceAuthenticationError in a fresh image (I canât imagine its related is it? Could that repo suddenly have some issue? I had the same error yesterday and had to clear out the iceberg-local). It seems that iceberg is still not quite as rock solid as we would like. Tim
On 30 Apr 2019, at 17:15, Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works> wrote:
Guille - it looks like modifying that method and : "I installed some other package (`libcurl-gnutls`) which is an "addon" to the regular `libcurl`.â
Got us further - now heâs getting IceAuthenticationError- which could be down to git vs https. (I can use the #remoteTypeSelector: trick to hopefully fix that).
When I confirm everything, I will report back the magic syntax (at least for Arch) - as well as the desire to back port that fix to 7.
Thanks for chipping in (and this is the thread that keeps on givingâ¦)
Tim
On 30 Apr 2019, at 16:08, Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works <mailto:tim@testit.works>> wrote:
Actually - the user has confirmed a bit more (which sounds like your hunch Guille):
Hmm⦠Just loading the image without `eval`ing something seems to boot up well. But then I also realise, that there is a warning:
```ioLoadModule(/opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libgit2.so): libcurl-gnutls.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory``` (edited)
So this looks like pharo tries to load a bundled libgit2 first during bootup which fails and only later, when trying to call into it, system resolves into the system installed one. Which then causes the segfault for some reason.
Iâll see if I can guide him through changing that method.
Tim
On 30 Apr 2019, at 15:53, Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works <mailto:tim@testit.works>> wrote:
Hi Guille - Iâm not using Arch Linux myself - this was a seasoned exercism contributor trying to give pharo a spin - and sadly it hasnât gone well (shame as they might have been an advocate) They also commented:
"I'm not quite sure though if I really want to continue from here. As someone new to pharo, I basically can't find any installation instructions that go beyond that evil `curl`. I'm happy to play this to the end with you, that at least exercism gets proper instructions, but the pharo community really should change their mind and provide more and better documentation about systemwide installation and packages. I have a hard time seeing something used at my compnay that does not provide an RPM out of the boxâ¦â
Which is fair play.
However I did get some details which might salvage something (and maybe they can try)
Its ArchLinux (apparently there are no versions in Arch, its always the latest). Pharo wa installed via AUR (looks like a bit old - 2019-01-24 18:18) - not sure that is the issue though AUR does give an image so they downloaded the latest 64 bit one from here - https://files.pharo.org/image/70/ <https://files.pharo.org/image/70/> Libgit2 was missing - that was installed (not clear on how - could ask)
After all of this - it did launch - they saw a welcome screen then it crashed (I think they were doing our eval string to metacello load exercism - so it would then use libgit2)
They then got this error: https://pastebin.com/W2D86ZS4 <https://pastebin.com/W2D86ZS4>
Iâve pasted the error below - for prosperity.
Tim
Pharo VM version: 5.0-201901231209 Wed Jan 23 12:32:13 UTC 2019 gcc 4.8 [Production Spur 64-bit VM] Built from: CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.2509 uuid: 91e81f64-95de-4914-a960-8f842be3a194 Jan 23 2019 With: StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-eem.2509 uuid: 91e81f64-95de-4914-a960-8f842be3a194 Jan 23 2019 Revision: VM: 201901231209 https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git <https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git> Date: Wed Jan 23 07:09:49 2019 CommitHash: a4b2dfa6 Plugins: 201901231209 https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git <https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git> Build host: Linux travis-job-3a8f8935-e791-48da-aa41-2eccc2452870 4.4.0-101-generic #124~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Nov 10 19:05:36 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux plugin path: /opt/pharo/bin [default: /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/]
C stack backtrace & registers: rax 0x00000000 rbx 0x7f4aacbce700 rcx 0x00000000 rdx 0x00000014 rdi 0x00000000 rsi 0x00000000 rbp 0x00000000 rsp 0x7fffdc831d00 r8 0x00000000 r9 0x7f4aacbbce22 r10 0x00000006 r11 0x7fffdc831d08 r12 0x00000040 r13 0x00000014 r14 0x00000000 r15 0x7f4aacbbce22 rip 0x7f4aac72f3b9 */lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(BN_num_bits+0x9)[0x7f4aac72f3b9] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x41b0d3] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x41cb2e] /lib/libpthread.so.0(+0x124d0)[0x7f4aaeb2d4d0] /lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(BN_num_bits+0x9)[0x7f4aac72f3b9] /lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(RSA_size+0xe)[0x7f4aac81fa5e] /lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(+0x1b43b6)[0x7f4aac8273b6] /lib/libcrypto.so.1.1(RSA_verify+0x2b)[0x7f4aac82777b] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0x2c2df)[0x7f4aac4672df] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0xabbf)[0x7f4aac445bbf] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0xe377)[0x7f4aac449377] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0xffbe)[0x7f4aac44afbe] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0x11cb6)[0x7f4aac44ccb6] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(+0x1ad00)[0x7f4aac455d00] /opt/pharo/lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/libssh2.so.1(libssh2_session_handshake+0x2e)[0x7f4aac455f8f] /lib/libgit2.so(+0xc3265)[0x7f4aacb33265] /lib/libgit2.so(+0xbf06b)[0x7f4aacb2f06b] /lib/libgit2.so(git_remote_connect+0x166)[0x7f4aacb0bf66] /lib/libgit2.so(git_remote_fetch+0x97)[0x7f4aacb0d417] /lib/libgit2.so(git_clone+0x36a)[0x7f4aaca9c4ea] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x4cacb6] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x4585f7] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo[0x45a667] /opt/pharo/bin/../lib/pharo/5.0-201901231209/pharo(ceSendsupertonumArgs+0x265)[0x45c4b5] [0x1f00100] [0x7f4aacbcc7b0]
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stack page bytes 8192 available headroom 5576 minimum unused headroom 5936
(Segmentation fault)
On 30 Apr 2019, at 15:18, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito@gmail.com <mailto:guillermopolito@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Tim,
Looking at the resolution of the libgit library, I see that in pharo7 the following:
LGitLibrary >> unixModuleName | pluginDir | pluginDir := Smalltalk vm binary parent. #('libgit2.so' 'libgit2.so.0') detect: [ :each | (pluginDir / each) exists ] ifFound: [ :libName | ^ libName ].
self error: 'Module not found.'
That definition may be the root of the problem in linux because it is returning the unqualified library name without the VM path. Then, the order of resolution of libraries is the one in the operating system, which is in your case probably searching in /usr/lib or something like that. I'd bet that you have in your system (/usr/lib/something) another libgit version but probably not matching the expected version in pharo or the architecture of pharo (32/64 bits). Thus, pharo finds the library but cannot load it...
If you check in Pharo8, the same method reads slightly different:
LGitLibrary >> unixModuleName | pluginDir | pluginDir := Smalltalk vm binary parent. #('libgit2.so' 'libgit2.so.0') detect: [ :each | (pluginDir / each) exists ] ifFound: [ :libName | ^ (pluginDir / libName) fullName ].
self error: 'Module not found.'
Can you check that patching the method like that works in your case? This maybe deserves a backporting as it may make it super complicated to work with Iceberg in some linuxes...
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 3:08 PM Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works <mailto:tim@testit.works>> wrote: Did we ever get the bottom of installing Pharo on linux? I have a user on Arch linux who installed pharo from AUR (this is new stuff to me) - and once they downloaded an image - they now get an error that looks suspiciously like this libgit2 debacle - so Iâm wondering what the solution was?
The error is:
External module not found ExternalLibraryFunction(Object)>>error: ExternalLibraryFunction(Object)>>externalCallFailed ExternalLibraryFunction(ExternalFunction)>>invokeWithArguments: LGitLibrary>>libgit2_init FFICalloutAPI>>function:module: LGitLibrary(Object)>>ffiCall: LGitLibrary>>libgit2_init [ self libgit2_init. self recordInitializationSuccess ] in LGitLibrary>>initializeLibGit2 in Block: [ self libgit2_init.... BlockClosure>>on:do:
...
On 4 Apr 2019, at 15:07, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com <mailto:vitormcruz@gmail.com>> wrote:
No, you can't install libcurl3 with libcurl4. There is a known conflict between them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754294 <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/1754294>, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=900511 <https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=900511>
Ubuntu 18.4 don't come with curl, but I think it comes with libcurl3 (I don't have means to verify it now), but when you install curl, it installs libcurl4 and removes libcurl3.
On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 11:00 AM Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com <mailto:raoknz@gmail.com>> wrote: apt-cache search reports everything it knows about, not just things that are INSTALLED. For example, apt-cache search reports lua-curl-dev, but it is not installed. apt list | grep lua-curl-dev
The fact that neither libcurl3 nor libcurl4 is initially installed means that either of them can be installed without conflict.
On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 01:34, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com <mailto:btc@openinworld.com>> wrote:
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 05:09, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com <mailto:raoknz@gmail.com>> wrote: I just did a complete reinstall of Ubuntu 18.4 on this laptop yesterday,
and it did not come with any version of curl.
What do you mean? Under WSL I have installed Ubuntu 18.4 and for... $ apt-cache search libcurl | less I see libcurl3 and libcurl4
cheers -ben
uname -a => Linux Inspiron 4.18.0-16-generic #17~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 12 13:35:51 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 01:27, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com <mailto:vitormcruz@gmail.com>> wrote: Installing curl don't work because there is a conflict between curl version name used on Ubuntu and that used by Pharo, you can't install libcurl 3 and libcru4 together. Ubuntu 18 comes with libcurl4 and older software depending on libcurl3 broke with it. I tested with minidebian and it also failed.
Richard, was you able to use Iceberg? It should only work if either Ubuntu fix this dependency problem with libcurl or Pharo started to use libcrl4.
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:50 AM Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com <mailto:raoknz@gmail.com>> wrote: I have Pharo 6.1 and Pharo 7.0 working in Ubuntu 18.04 with no trouble so far. I just downloaded the launcher from pharo.org <http://pharo.org/> and pulled the images down that way.
One thing I do find annoying in Ubuntu 18.04 is the number of programs (like okular) that spew warning messages out the terminal. Pharo, sadly, is one of them. Whenever a debugger window comes up in Pharo there is spewage on the terminal. But it works.
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, john pfersich <jpfersich@gmail.com <mailto:jpfersich@gmail.com>> wrote: Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is, IMHO, is royal piece of crap. Ubuntu seems to have abandoned programmers tools almost completely in 18.04. Iâve had more problems with support of programming tools in 18.04, more than even Windows. I have run âsudo apt installâ maybe 80 times to install tools and libraries. Ubuntu 18.04âs hardware support is also lame compared to 16.04. Personally , Iâm not surprised that Pharo doesnât run on 18.04. I stopped installing 18.04 on my new machines, after all 16.04 still has a few years of support going for it, and at least it works without hours of upgrading.
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On Apr 1, 2019, at 06:06, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com <mailto:horrido.hobbies@gmail.com>> wrote:
This issue bit me in the ass before, but I forgot. Yes, I had a senior moment.
The issue is this: When I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at OVH last year, it failed. I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
This week, I tried to run Pharo under Ubuntu Server 18.04 at Google Cloud Platform and it failed. Again, I had to fall back to Ubuntu Server 16.04.
Why does this issue keep biting me in the ass??? Because I'm 65 and my brain is dying.
The bigger issue is this: Hosting services like Digital Ocean, OVH, and Google Cloud Platform are becoming increasingly important in the enterprise space. If Pharo can't run on these server operating systems, it's going to be a black eye for the language. We can get away with not supporting this for now, but it will eventually catch up with us.
At Google Cloud Platform, for example, the user can choose from this list of hosts: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch), CentOS 6, CentOS 7, various versions of CoreOS, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Minimal, Ubuntu 18.10 Minimal, various versions of Red Hat, various versions of SUSE, various versions of Window, and so on. It's a long list. *I strongly suspect that many of these are unusable with Pharo.*
How to address this? I don't know. But if it's not a major problem now, it will be. It's bitten me in the ass twice, and I can't be alone.
I'm giving a fair warning to everyone. Don't lash back at me â I'm just the canary in the coal mine.
Tim Mackinnon wrote
Come on, letâs try not to be dismissive , weâve all had that annoying moment where something doesnât work.
Richard, was this installed with zero conf or Launcher, and as mentioned - a Linux distro is going to be helpful.
Iâm assuming it worked before at some point for you right? But was that v6 and now youâre trying v7?
Tim
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On 31 Mar 2019, at 23:46, john pfersich <
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What Linux (distro and version) and which version of Pharo. You couldnât supply less information if you tried.
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On Mar 31, 2019, at 14:21, Richard Kenneth Eng <
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I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
Error: External module not found
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
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Which external module is not found? I personally had a recurring issue when using the P7 VM+Image. I have to use Launcher to get a working environment. Le 31/03/2019 à 23:21, Richard Kenneth Eng a écrit :
I just installed Pharo under Linux and when I start it up, I get:
*Error: External module not found*
It doesn't matter how I install Pharo.
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