Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo-users Digest, Vol 55, Issue 206
I downloaded the latest PharoLauncher image, use VM for Pharo 6.1. 1) On load i got an error with UTF8 encoding. 2) Every time i tried to create image (for example, Pharo 7 image) i get an error "Can't find the requested origin". Reported. Best regards, Vikenti Potapov
On 25 November 2017 at 15:18, ÐикенÑий ÐоÑапов <vikenti.potapov@gmail.com> wrote:
I downloaded the latest PharoLauncher image, use VM for Pharo 6.1. 1) On load i got an error with UTF8 encoding. 2) Every time i tried to create image (for example, Pharo 7 image) i get an error "Can't find the requested origin".
Reported.
Best regards, Vikenti Potapov
The overall difficulty here in getting this addressed is difficulty in reproducing your environment. For example, I think it would be awkward for me to operate with OS locale set to Russian. You'll see little action on it until there is an Issue logged at pharo.fogbugz.com with a simple set of steps to reproduced for standard environments (i.e. using English locales) Reviewing your other posts, I'd suggest initially creating a script to wrap Pharo startup that cleans all the environment variables to ascii characters, temporarily creating required directories so at lest you can get it started. Then extend that script to reintroduce the error, like a single non-ascii character in a single environment variable that causes an error. That extended part then provides a path for others to reproduce your problem, which you would attach to the Issue. Then as you investigate a solution yourself, ask questions about it on pharo-dev to keep the Issue active and over time you'll likely get some action from others on it. cheers -ben
+ 1 On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
On 25 November 2017 at 15:18, ÐикенÑий ÐоÑапов <vikenti.potapov@gmail.com> wrote:
I downloaded the latest PharoLauncher image, use VM for Pharo 6.1. 1) On load i got an error with UTF8 encoding. 2) Every time i tried to create image (for example, Pharo 7 image) i get an error "Can't find the requested origin".
Reported.
Best regards, Vikenti Potapov
The overall difficulty here in getting this addressed is difficulty in reproducing your environment. For example, I think it would be awkward for me to operate with OS locale set to Russian. You'll see little action on it until there is an Issue logged at pharo.fogbugz.com with a simple set of steps to reproduced for standard environments (i.e. using English locales)
Reviewing your other posts, I'd suggest initially creating a script to wrap Pharo startup that cleans all the environment variables to ascii characters, temporarily creating required directories so at lest you can get it started. Then extend that script to reintroduce the error, like a single non-ascii character in a single environment variable that causes an error. That extended part then provides a path for others to reproduce your problem, which you would attach to the Issue. Then as you investigate a solution yourself, ask questions about it on pharo-dev to keep the Issue active and over time you'll likely get some action from others on it.
cheers -ben
Ben Coman wrote:
On 25 November 2017 at 15:18, ÐикенÑий ÐоÑапов <vikenti.potapov@gmail.com <mailto:vikenti.potapov@gmail.com>> wrote:
I downloaded the latest PharoLauncher image, use VM for Pharo 6.1. 1) On load i got an error with UTF8 encoding. 2) Every time i tried to create image (for example, Pharo 7 image) i get an error "Can't find the requested origin".
Reported.
Best regards, Vikenti Potapov
The overall difficulty here in getting this addressed is difficulty in reproducing your environment. For example, I think it would be awkward for me to operate with OS locale set to Russian. You'll see little action on it until there is an Issue logged at pharo.fogbugz.com <http://pharo.fogbugz.com/> with a simple set of steps to reproduced for standard environments (i.e. using English locales)
Reviewing your other posts, I'd suggest initially creating a script to wrap Pharo startup that cleans all the environment variables to ascii
-1. It should all work in other locales. Maybe you should set some if not all of the jenkins jobs under different locales (at least russian and japanese) to catch those things fast. Your (I hate to use the word) privilege to be fine with ASCII only actually masks lot of bugs from you. Herby P.S.: Other masking thing is the timezone which is UTC in case of UK, France and lot of the rest of Western Europe. That should also be set to. say, Sydney and Honolulu to get big GMT+ and GMT- shifts.
characters, temporarily creating required directories so at lest you can get it started. Then extend that script to reintroduce the error, like a single non-ascii character in a single environment variable that causes an error. That extended part then provides a path for others to reproduce your problem, which you would attach to the Issue. Then as you investigate a solution yourself, ask questions about it on pharo-dev to keep the Issue active and over time you'll likely get some action from others on it.
cheers -ben
On 26 November 2017 at 21:28, Herby VojÄÃk <herby@mailbox.sk> wrote:
Ben Coman wrote:
On 25 November 2017 at 15:18, ÐикенÑий ÐоÑапов <vikenti.potapov@gmail.com <mailto:vikenti.potapov@gmail.com>> wrote:
I downloaded the latest PharoLauncher image, use VM for Pharo 6.1. 1) On load i got an error with UTF8 encoding. 2) Every time i tried to create image (for example, Pharo 7 image) i get an error "Can't find the requested origin".
Reported.
Best regards, Vikenti Potapov
The overall difficulty here in getting this addressed is difficulty in reproducing your environment. For example, I think it would be awkward for me to operate with OS locale set to Russian. You'll see little action on it until there is an Issue logged at pharo.fogbugz.com <http://pharo.fogbugz.com/> with a simple set of steps to reproduced for standard environments (i.e. using English locales)
Reviewing your other posts, I'd suggest initially creating a script to wrap Pharo startup that cleans all the environment variables to ascii
-1.
It should all work in other locales. Maybe you should set some if not all of the jenkins jobs under different locales (at least russian and japanese) to catch those things fast.
Your (I hate to use the word) privilege to be fine with ASCII only actually masks lot of bugs from you.
I think you misunderstand me. This suggestion was only to help isolate the problem during troubleshooting. The best way to troubleshoot something is to a.) start with something working and then b.) be able to reliability break it. Vikenti doesn't have (a.) so I was giving him a hack to get that, to be able to proceed to (b.) But your suggestion to the running some CI jobs under different locals and timezones could be useful. cheers -ben
Herby
P.S.: Other masking thing is the timezone which is UTC in case of UK, France and lot of the rest of Western Europe. That should also be set to. say, Sydney and Honolulu to get big GMT+ and GMT- shifts.
characters, temporarily creating required directories so at lest you can
get it started. Then extend that script to reintroduce the error, like a single non-ascii character in a single environment variable that causes an error. That extended part then provides a path for others to reproduce your problem, which you would attach to the Issue. Then as you investigate a solution yourself, ask questions about it on pharo-dev to keep the Issue active and over time you'll likely get some action from others on it.
cheers -ben
Ben Coman wrote:
On 26 November 2017 at 21:28, Herby VojÄÃk <herby@mailbox.sk <mailto:herby@mailbox.sk>> wrote:
Ben Coman wrote:
On 25 November 2017 at 15:18, ÐикенÑий ÐоÑапов <vikenti.potapov@gmail.com <mailto:vikenti.potapov@gmail.com> <mailto:vikenti.potapov@gmail.com <mailto:vikenti.potapov@gmail.com>>> wrote:
I downloaded the latest PharoLauncher image, use VM for Pharo 6.1. 1) On load i got an error with UTF8 encoding. 2) Every time i tried to create image (for example, Pharo 7 image) i get an error "Can't find the requested origin".
Reported.
Best regards, Vikenti Potapov
The overall difficulty here in getting this addressed is difficulty in reproducing your environment. For example, I think it would be awkward for me to operate with OS locale set to Russian. You'll see little action on it until there is an Issue logged at pharo.fogbugz.com <http://pharo.fogbugz.com> <http://pharo.fogbugz.com/> with a simple set of steps to reproduced for standard environments (i.e. using English locales)
Reviewing your other posts, I'd suggest initially creating a script to wrap Pharo startup that cleans all the environment variables to ascii
-1.
It should all work in other locales. Maybe you should set some if not all of the jenkins jobs under different locales (at least russian and japanese) to catch those things fast.
Your (I hate to use the word) privilege to be fine with ASCII only actually masks lot of bugs from you.
I think you misunderstand me. This suggestion was only to help isolate the problem during troubleshooting. The best way to troubleshoot something is to a.) start with something working and then b.) be able to reliability break it. Vikenti doesn't have (a.) so I was giving him a hack to get that, to be able to proceed to (b.)
But your suggestion to the running some CI jobs under different locals and timezones could be useful.
Ok, sorry. Herby
cheers -ben
Herby
P.S.: Other masking thing is the timezone which is UTC in case of UK, France and lot of the rest of Western Europe. That should also be set to. say, Sydney and Honolulu to get big GMT+ and GMT- shifts.
characters, temporarily creating required directories so at lest you can get it started. Then extend that script to reintroduce the error, like a single non-ascii character in a single environment variable that causes an error. That extended part then provides a path for others to reproduce your problem, which you would attach to the Issue. Then as you investigate a solution yourself, ask questions about it on pharo-dev to keep the Issue active and over time you'll likely get some action from others on it.
cheers -ben
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ÐикенÑий ÐоÑапов