Emergency evaluator and GTGenericStackDebugger
Hello, Iâve been using Pharo for a while as my playground for trying things out, itâs a very soothing place to code and figure out algorithms (except that when I return to my âreal worldâ, the friction with modern tools is amplified). Iâm still a newb when it comes to knowing how things work deeper down. Iâm a little stuck. I did something (canât remember) and not realizing that I had a problem, saved my image too. Now when I try open a Workspace, I get a *** System error handling failed *** with a huge amount of text. Iâve uploaded a screen grab here: http://imgur.com/4ZwsF6e Is this worth debugging? My plan is to install the origin tools, and remove GToolkit. And then reinstall GToolkit. Would this help? And, how? I realize I donât know what tools are in the default Pharo3 image! Can someone tell me what they are called? Thanks! Canât wait to get back to the happy place! -Ed
Hi, If I understand correctly, you are on Pharo 3. What I suggest is to open the Monticello Browser and look at the changed packages. Then you can load the previous versions of those, and you should get back to normal. Cheers, Doru On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Edward Povazan <empovazan@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
Iâve been using Pharo for a while as my playground for trying things out, itâs a very soothing place to code and figure out algorithms (except that when I return to my âreal worldâ, the friction with modern tools is amplified). Iâm still a newb when it comes to knowing how things work deeper down.
Iâm a little stuck. I did something (canât remember) and not realizing that I had a problem, saved my image too. Now when I try open a Workspace, I get a *** System error handling failed *** with a huge amount of text.
Iâve uploaded a screen grab here: http://imgur.com/4ZwsF6e
Is this worth debugging?
My plan is to install the origin tools, and remove GToolkit. And then reinstall GToolkit. Would this help?
And, how? I realize I donât know what tools are in the default Pharo3 image! Can someone tell me what they are called?
Thanks! Canât wait to get back to the happy place! -Ed
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
Thank you, For some reason there were a few. Reverted most. However all my Petit* ones trigger the same error when reloading them. I deleted them. But the error persists, as soon as I try open a Workspace I get the Emergency Evaluator screen. -Ed On Dec 7, 2014, at 12:21 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
If I understand correctly, you are on Pharo 3. What I suggest is to open the Monticello Browser and look at the changed packages. Then you can load the previous versions of those, and you should get back to normal.
Cheers, Doru
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Edward Povazan <empovazan@gmail.com> wrote: Hello,
Iâve been using Pharo for a while as my playground for trying things out, itâs a very soothing place to code and figure out algorithms (except that when I return to my âreal worldâ, the friction with modern tools is amplified). Iâm still a newb when it comes to knowing how things work deeper down.
Iâm a little stuck. I did something (canât remember) and not realizing that I had a problem, saved my image too. Now when I try open a Workspace, I get a *** System error handling failed *** with a huge amount of text.
Iâve uploaded a screen grab here: http://imgur.com/4ZwsF6e
Is this worth debugging?
My plan is to install the origin tools, and remove GToolkit. And then reinstall GToolkit. Would this help?
And, how? I realize I donât know what tools are in the default Pharo3 image! Can someone tell me what they are called?
Thanks! Canât wait to get back to the happy place! -Ed
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
Hi, Could you make the image available? Cheers, Doru On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Edward Povazan <empovazan@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you,
For some reason there were a few. Reverted most. However all my Petit* ones trigger the same error when reloading them. I deleted them. But the error persists, as soon as I try open a Workspace I get the Emergency Evaluator screen.
-Ed
On Dec 7, 2014, at 12:21 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
If I understand correctly, you are on Pharo 3. What I suggest is to open the Monticello Browser and look at the changed packages. Then you can load the previous versions of those, and you should get back to normal.
Cheers, Doru
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Edward Povazan <empovazan@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
Iâve been using Pharo for a while as my playground for trying things out, itâs a very soothing place to code and figure out algorithms (except that when I return to my âreal worldâ, the friction with modern tools is amplified). Iâm still a newb when it comes to knowing how things work deeper down.
Iâm a little stuck. I did something (canât remember) and not realizing that I had a problem, saved my image too. Now when I try open a Workspace, I get a *** System error handling failed *** with a huge amount of text.
Iâve uploaded a screen grab here: http://imgur.com/4ZwsF6e
Is this worth debugging?
My plan is to install the origin tools, and remove GToolkit. And then reinstall GToolkit. Would this help?
And, how? I realize I donât know what tools are in the default Pharo3 image! Can someone tell me what they are called?
Thanks! Canât wait to get back to the happy place! -Ed
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
Yep, I will move my stuff to a new image this week and clean up a bit. I now have a need to learn about serializing my models :) so I import them into a new image. I can post a link when I get it ready. Thanks for your help, Iâve learnt more things. -Ed On Dec 7, 2014, at 4:58 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
Could you make the image available?
Cheers, Doru
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Edward Povazan <empovazan@gmail.com> wrote: Thank you,
For some reason there were a few. Reverted most. However all my Petit* ones trigger the same error when reloading them. I deleted them. But the error persists, as soon as I try open a Workspace I get the Emergency Evaluator screen.
-Ed
On Dec 7, 2014, at 12:21 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
If I understand correctly, you are on Pharo 3. What I suggest is to open the Monticello Browser and look at the changed packages. Then you can load the previous versions of those, and you should get back to normal.
Cheers, Doru
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Edward Povazan <empovazan@gmail.com> wrote: Hello,
Iâve been using Pharo for a while as my playground for trying things out, itâs a very soothing place to code and figure out algorithms (except that when I return to my âreal worldâ, the friction with modern tools is amplified). Iâm still a newb when it comes to knowing how things work deeper down.
Iâm a little stuck. I did something (canât remember) and not realizing that I had a problem, saved my image too. Now when I try open a Workspace, I get a *** System error handling failed *** with a huge amount of text.
Iâve uploaded a screen grab here: http://imgur.com/4ZwsF6e
Is this worth debugging?
My plan is to install the origin tools, and remove GToolkit. And then reinstall GToolkit. Would this help?
And, how? I realize I donât know what tools are in the default Pharo3 image! Can someone tell me what they are called?
Thanks! Canât wait to get back to the happy place! -Ed
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
I found the problem. I forgot a simple fact - with Smalltalk I have access to all the code! Anyways, I discovered that I had somehow zapped Moose/HashTable (no idea how) and so in the layout code "HashTable newâ was raising the exception, sending ânewâ to UndefinedObject. Makes sense to me now. Thanks for all the help, it resulted in me poking around more when I suddenly realized I could. -Ed On Dec 7, 2014, at 4:58 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
Could you make the image available?
Cheers, Doru
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Edward Povazan <empovazan@gmail.com> wrote: Thank you,
For some reason there were a few. Reverted most. However all my Petit* ones trigger the same error when reloading them. I deleted them. But the error persists, as soon as I try open a Workspace I get the Emergency Evaluator screen.
-Ed
On Dec 7, 2014, at 12:21 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
If I understand correctly, you are on Pharo 3. What I suggest is to open the Monticello Browser and look at the changed packages. Then you can load the previous versions of those, and you should get back to normal.
Cheers, Doru
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Edward Povazan <empovazan@gmail.com> wrote: Hello,
Iâve been using Pharo for a while as my playground for trying things out, itâs a very soothing place to code and figure out algorithms (except that when I return to my âreal worldâ, the friction with modern tools is amplified). Iâm still a newb when it comes to knowing how things work deeper down.
Iâm a little stuck. I did something (canât remember) and not realizing that I had a problem, saved my image too. Now when I try open a Workspace, I get a *** System error handling failed *** with a huge amount of text.
Iâve uploaded a screen grab here: http://imgur.com/4ZwsF6e
Is this worth debugging?
My plan is to install the origin tools, and remove GToolkit. And then reinstall GToolkit. Would this help?
And, how? I realize I donât know what tools are in the default Pharo3 image! Can someone tell me what they are called?
Thanks! Canât wait to get back to the happy place! -Ed
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
I am happy you found the problem. Please continue asking questions. Cheers, Doru On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Edward Povazan <empovazan@gmail.com> wrote:
I found the problem. I forgot a simple fact - with Smalltalk I have access to all the code! Anyways, I discovered that I had somehow zapped Moose/HashTable (no idea how) and so in the layout code "HashTable newâ was raising the exception, sending ânewâ to UndefinedObject. Makes sense to me now.
Thanks for all the help, it resulted in me poking around more when I suddenly realized I could. -Ed
On Dec 7, 2014, at 4:58 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
Could you make the image available?
Cheers, Doru
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Edward Povazan <empovazan@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you,
For some reason there were a few. Reverted most. However all my Petit* ones trigger the same error when reloading them. I deleted them. But the error persists, as soon as I try open a Workspace I get the Emergency Evaluator screen.
-Ed
On Dec 7, 2014, at 12:21 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
If I understand correctly, you are on Pharo 3. What I suggest is to open the Monticello Browser and look at the changed packages. Then you can load the previous versions of those, and you should get back to normal.
Cheers, Doru
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Edward Povazan <empovazan@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
Iâve been using Pharo for a while as my playground for trying things out, itâs a very soothing place to code and figure out algorithms (except that when I return to my âreal worldâ, the friction with modern tools is amplified). Iâm still a newb when it comes to knowing how things work deeper down.
Iâm a little stuck. I did something (canât remember) and not realizing that I had a problem, saved my image too. Now when I try open a Workspace, I get a *** System error handling failed *** with a huge amount of text.
Iâve uploaded a screen grab here: http://imgur.com/4ZwsF6e
Is this worth debugging?
My plan is to install the origin tools, and remove GToolkit. And then reinstall GToolkit. Would this help?
And, how? I realize I donât know what tools are in the default Pharo3 image! Can someone tell me what they are called?
Thanks! Canât wait to get back to the happy place! -Ed
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
Hi, what image do you use? If it is pharo4, you can open the settings (World menu>System>Settings) and disable GT playground and inspector (Glamorous Toolkit settings) 2014-12-07 6:08 GMT+01:00 Edward Povazan <empovazan@gmail.com>:
Hello,
Iâve been using Pharo for a while as my playground for trying things out, itâs a very soothing place to code and figure out algorithms (except that when I return to my âreal worldâ, the friction with modern tools is amplified). Iâm still a newb when it comes to knowing how things work deeper down.
Iâm a little stuck. I did something (canât remember) and not realizing that I had a problem, saved my image too. Now when I try open a Workspace, I get a *** System error handling failed *** with a huge amount of text.
Iâve uploaded a screen grab here: http://imgur.com/4ZwsF6e
Is this worth debugging?
My plan is to install the origin tools, and remove GToolkit. And then reinstall GToolkit. Would this help?
And, how? I realize I donât know what tools are in the default Pharo3 image! Can someone tell me what they are called?
Thanks! Canât wait to get back to the happy place! -Ed
You can actually do the same in Pharo 3 as well. Doru On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de> wrote:
Hi,
what image do you use? If it is pharo4, you can open the settings (World menu>System>Settings) and disable GT playground and inspector (Glamorous Toolkit settings)
2014-12-07 6:08 GMT+01:00 Edward Povazan <empovazan@gmail.com>:
Hello,
Iâve been using Pharo for a while as my playground for trying things out, itâs a very soothing place to code and figure out algorithms (except that when I return to my âreal worldâ, the friction with modern tools is amplified). Iâm still a newb when it comes to knowing how things work deeper down.
Iâm a little stuck. I did something (canât remember) and not realizing that I had a problem, saved my image too. Now when I try open a Workspace, I get a *** System error handling failed *** with a huge amount of text.
Iâve uploaded a screen grab here: http://imgur.com/4ZwsF6e
Is this worth debugging?
My plan is to install the origin tools, and remove GToolkit. And then reinstall GToolkit. Would this help?
And, how? I realize I donât know what tools are in the default Pharo3 image! Can someone tell me what they are called?
Thanks! Canât wait to get back to the happy place! -Ed
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
Thank you, I didnât know that (I did it with code for the inspector). However disabling/enabling doesnât change anything with regards to the error. And Iâm liking GT a lot, so I will prepare a new image and move my stuff over, good things to finally have a need to learn. -Ed On Dec 7, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de> wrote:
Hi,
what image do you use? If it is pharo4, you can open the settings (World menu>System>Settings) and disable GT playground and inspector (Glamorous Toolkit settings)
2014-12-07 6:08 GMT+01:00 Edward Povazan <empovazan@gmail.com>: Hello,
Iâve been using Pharo for a while as my playground for trying things out, itâs a very soothing place to code and figure out algorithms (except that when I return to my âreal worldâ, the friction with modern tools is amplified). Iâm still a newb when it comes to knowing how things work deeper down.
Iâm a little stuck. I did something (canât remember) and not realizing that I had a problem, saved my image too. Now when I try open a Workspace, I get a *** System error handling failed *** with a huge amount of text.
Iâve uploaded a screen grab here: http://imgur.com/4ZwsF6e
Is this worth debugging?
My plan is to install the origin tools, and remove GToolkit. And then reinstall GToolkit. Would this help?
And, how? I realize I donât know what tools are in the default Pharo3 image! Can someone tell me what they are called?
Thanks! Canât wait to get back to the happy place! -Ed
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Tudor Girba