On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 4:11 AM, stepharong <stepharong@free.fr> wrote:

I should tell you that I do not like it at all.��

Hey students inside comments self means the class and outside the instance! WTF?

I think that we should have another kind of pseudo variable but not self.

So in comments��on the instance-side��should we have pseudo variable "class" or "myclass" ?

But then do students try to use that in the playground?

Maybe instance-side comments should have no pseudo variable,��

and use the class directly.�� After all, comments have an absolute position in the hierarchy. ��

Its not like you can evaluate the comment from a subclass.��

On class-side "self" seems okay in comments, since it means the same thing as in code.

Perhaps it even draws attention of students that the class is itself an object.

cheers -ben

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Hi all,

in Nautilus, `self` is always the current class instance. This is great for coding class side methods because we can test code fragments live in the editor, but for instance side methods I have not seen the usefulness of it. At times it can even be confusing and cause errors since a "print it" of it looks quite like an instance (`a Listener` vs `Listener`).

Is there a rationale why `self` in instance view does not raise an error or is nil? And, more importantly, could there be a way to set it to a specific value (= can we browse a class with self bound to an specific instance).

In Pharo 6 if you tag a class method with��

�� ��<sampleInstance>��

�� ��...

�� �� ^ return the instance

then you get automatically an icon to get an inspector on the instance. From there you can do whatever you want.��

This would resemble programming in the debugger, but provide the overview that a class browser provides.

cheers,

Siemen

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