Java cannot do become:, so, that's not going to be a "real" smalltalk.

I do work w/ Java & Scala on a project.

First, JAR hell -> productivity killer

Second, lots of infrastructure needed: IDE, Maven, Artifactory, ... -> another productivity killer

Long story short: prototype the thing in Pharo and if good enough, run it there.

I've done that for one project of late. Net resut: it takes 5x the engineers and 3x the time to do the same in X than with Pharo.

If you want to do Java/Scala, by all means, go there. But why the hell is this going to be so important?

Read��

https://www.quora.com/Of-the-emerging-systems-languages-Rust-D-Go-and-Nim-which-is-the-strongest-language-and-why

for lots of pro/cons arguments on other languages (which do not give a shit about Java mean you).

Phil

On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 11:41 AM, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:

At�� Redmonk <http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2015/07/01/language-rankings-6-15/>
, Scala is a top 20 language (position #14). It's a widely used language,
too, though not in the same league as Java nor Python. Even Clojure and
Groovy are in the top 20.

Scala is much, much more popular and widely used than Smalltalk. If
Smalltalk could rise to Scala's level, it would be a huge win.

The reason Amber and Redline and others have never achieved popularity is
primarily due to the lack of proper marketing. There are a gazillion
programming languages out there vying for developer attention. Smalltalk is
completely lost in the noise. It's a great platform, but if it doesn't have
developer /mindshare/, people won't try it. How do you think they'll find
their way to Smalltalk/Pharo? By divination?

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