On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Shadowfirebird <shadowfirebird@gmail.com> wrote:

Actually, no, because I assumed that there were broken dependancies in
Crunchbang and it wouldn't help.�� Here goes...

TL;DR: I just got tangled up in missing dependancies; I think this is
a #! problem. Thanks for the idea, though.

Long version:

�� shadow@jenna[~/shadow/scratch/pharo4.0]%: ./pharo
�� could not find module vm-display-X11
�� [1]�� 4875 abort�� ./pharo

�� (134) shadow@jenna[~/shadow/scratch/pharo4.0]%: cd bin

�� shadow@jenna[~/shadow/scratch/pharo4.0/bin]%: ldd vm-display-X11
�� linux-gate.so.1 (0xf776e000)
�� libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0xf771d000)
�� libGL.so.1 => not found
�� libX11.so.6 => not found
�� libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf7572000)
�� /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf776f000)

Well outside of my comfort zone here, but a quick web search suggests
I might want libgl1-mesa-glx or libgl1-mesa-swx11? Looking at Synaptic
I can see a libgl1-mesa-swx11-i686:i386, so let's try that?

�� (100) shadow@jenna[~/shadow/scratch/pharo4.0/bin]%: sudo apt-get
install libgl1-mesa-swx11-i686
�� Reading package lists... Done
�� Building dependency tree
�� Reading state information... Done
�� Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
�� requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
�� distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
�� or been moved out of Incoming.
�� The following information may help to resolve the situation:

�� The following packages have unmet dependencies:
�� libgl1-mesa-swx11-i686:i386 : Depends: libgl1-mesa-swx11:i386 (=
8.0.5-4+deb7u2) but it is not going to be installed
�� Depends: libc6:i386 (>= 2.3.6-6~)
but it is not going to be installed
�� Depends: libgcc1:i386 (>= 1:4.1.1)
but it is not going to be installed
�� Depends: libstdc++6:i386 (>= 4.1.1)
but it is not going to be installed
�� Depends: libx11-6:i386 but it is
not going to be installed
�� Depends: libxext6:i386 but it is
not going to be installed
�� E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Okay. Hmm.�� Maybe apt-get is failing to chain-install these dependancies? Maybe?

�� (100) shadow@jenna[~/shadow/scratch/pharo4.0/bin]%: sudo apt-get
install libc6:i386
�� Reading package lists... Done
�� Building dependency tree
�� Reading state information... Done
�� Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
�� requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
�� distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
�� or been moved out of Incoming.
�� The following information may help to resolve the situation:

�� The following packages have unmet dependencies:
�� libc6 : Depends: libgcc1 but it is not going to be installed
�� Breaks: libc6:i386 (!= 2.19-13) but 2.13-38+deb7u8 is to
be installed
�� libc6:i386 : Breaks: libc6 (!= 2.13-38+deb7u8) but 2.19-13 is to
be installed
�� libcairo2 : Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.9.0) but it is not
going to be installed
�� Depends: libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.5) but it is not going
to be installed
�� Depends: libpixman-1-0 (>= 0.21.6) but it is not
going to be installed
�� Depends: libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4) but it is not going
to be installed
�� Depends: libxcb-render0 but it is not going to be installed
�� Depends: libxcb-shm0 but it is not going to be installed
�� Depends: libxcb1 (>= 1.6) but it is not going to be installed
�� Depends: libxrender1 but it is not going to be installed
�� libcurl3-gnutls : Depends: libgcrypt11 (>= 1.4.5) but it is not
going to be installed
�� Depends: libgnutls26 (>= 2.12.17-0) but it is
not going to be installed
�� Depends: libgssapi-krb5-2 (>= 1.10+dfsg~) but
it is not going to be installed
�� Depends: libidn11 (>= 1.13) but it is not going
to be installed
�� Depends: libldap-2.4-2 (>= 2.4.7) but it is not
going to be installed
�� Depends: librtmp0 (>= 2.3) but it is not going
to be installed
�� Depends: libssh2-1 (>= 1.2.6) but it is not
going to be installed
�� Recommends: ca-certificates but it is not going
to be installed
�� libdbus-glib-1-2 : Depends: libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.2.16) but it is not
going to be installed
�� libglib2.0-0 : Depends: libffi5 (>= 3.0.4) but it is not going to
be installed
�� Depends: libpcre3 (>= 8.10) but it is not going to
be installed
�� Depends: libselinux1 (>= 1.32) but it is not going
to be installed
�� Recommends: shared-mime-info
�� libimlib2 : Depends: libbz2-1.0 but it is not going to be installed
�� Depends: libfreetype6 (>= 2.2.1) but it is not going
to be installed
�� Depends: libgif4 (>= 4.1.4) but it is not going to be installed
�� Depends: libid3tag0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it is not going
to be installed
�� Depends: libjpeg8 (>= 8c) but it is not going to be installed
�� Depends: libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4) but it is not going
to be installed
�� Depends: libtiff4 (> 3.9.5-3~) but it is not going to
be installed
�� liblua5.1-0 : Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1) but it is not going
to be installed
�� Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1) but it is not going
to be installed
�� libruby1.8 : Depends: libgdbm3 (>= 1.8.3) but it is not going to
be installed
�� Depends: libreadline5 (>= 5.2) but it is not going
to be installed
�� Depends: libssl1.0.0 (>= 1.0.0) but it is not going
to be installed
�� libx11-6 : Depends: libxcb1 (>= 1.2) but it is not going to be installed
�� libxft2 : Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.9.0) but it is not going
to be installed
�� Depends: libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.5) but it is not going to
be installed
�� Depends: libxrender1 but it is not going to be installed
�� libxml2 : Depends: liblzma5 (>= 5.1.1alpha+20120614) but it is
not going to be installed
�� Recommends: xml-core but it is not going to be installed
�� E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may
be caused by held packages.
�� sudo apt-get install libc6:i386�� 19.22s user 0.12s system 99% cpu
19.356 total

...Ooof.�� Okay, giving up now. Thanks for the idea, though.

On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 2:47 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck
<marianopeck@gmail.com> wrote:
> Did you try doing a "ldd" over the VM executable file so that you can find
> the missing dependencies?
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Shadowfirebird <shadowfirebird@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Same problem. I'm afraid -- Crunchbang refuses to install libasound2:i386
>> because it cannot fulfill the dependencies.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Jimmie Houchin <jlhouchin@gmail.com>

>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Welcome to Pharo and the Pharo community. Smalltalk/Pharo are
>>> exceptionally empowering tools. And getting better all the time.
>>>
>>> My apologies for your difficulties. I personally have not seen that page
>>> before as I already have scripts for installing all of the requisite
>>> libraries. This script has worked for me for years on Ubuntu or other Debian
>>> based distros. My favorite was Crunchbang.
>>>
>>> I did not originate this script but believe I started with I found years
>>> ago for either Debian or Ubuntu. I cleaned it up and added to it over time.
>>> It installs all the necessary libraries to my knowledge. Whether or not
>>> installs more than I need I do not know. All I do know is that after running
>>> the script Pharo runs perfectly.
>>>
>>> I copied all of this from my setup-pharo.sh�� script.
>>> I run this script anytime I have a fresh Linux install.
>>> I then sudo -s and run the script.
>>>
>>> dpkg --add-architecture i386
>>> apt-get update
>>>
>>> apt-get --yes install cmake zip bash-completion ruby git xz-utils
>>> debhelper devscripts
>>> apt-get --yes install libc6-dev:i386 libasound2:i386 libasound2-dev:i386
>>> libasound2-plugins:i386
>>> apt-get --yes install libssl-dev:i386 libssl1.0.0:i386 libssh2-1:i386
>>> libfreetype6-dev:i386 libx11-dev:i386 libsm-dev:i386 libice-dev:i386
>>> apt-get --yes install build-essential gcc-multilib g++
>>> apt-get --yes install libgl1-mesa-dev:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
>>>
>>> Hopefully this can help your experience with Pharo and/or Squeak.
>>>
>>> Jimmie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/25/2015 09:54 AM, Shadowfirebird wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I've been having trouble getting *any* sort of Smalltalk working on
>>>> Linux.�� But ultimately I got Pharo (my first choice) working on Debian
>>>> Jessie.
>>>>
>>>> It wasn't terribly hard in the end, but since the instructions at

>>>> http://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation#64-bit-System-Setup seem to be out
>>>> of date, I thought it might be helpful to post something in case those in
>>>> charge of that page would like to update.�� Since there is no issue tracker,
>>>> I assume this is a good a place as any.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ## Short Version ##
>>>>
>>>> * sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
>>>> * sudo apt-get update
>>>> * sudo apt-get install lib32zl lib32ncurses5
>>>>
>>>> Note that there is no ia32-libs package on Jessie, as far as I can tell.
>>>> (I have no idea whether you actually need to install lib32ncurses5, but
>>>> those were what apt-get suggested, and it worked.)
>>>>
>>>> I do have a startup error -- "MessageNotUnderstood:
>>>> EmbeddedFreeTypeFontInstaller>>failedToOpen:Index:" -- but it doesn't seem
>>>> to break anything.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ## Longer version / Rant ##
>>>>
>>>> Pharo turned out to be impossible on my netbook (where I would like to
>>>> use it, sadly) because it is still running Crunchbang, which is Debian Woody
>>>> under the hood. So in theory the fix from the 64bit install page should
>>>> work.�� It doesn't, though -- some sort of problem with #! I suppose
>>>>
>>>>�� "The following packages have unmet dependacies:
>>>>�� ia32-libs: Depends: ia32-libs-i386"
>>>>
>>>> Squeak, as downloaded from their site, has exactly the same problem.
>>>>
>>>> Pharo isn't in the Debian Repository, but an old version of the Squeak
>>>> VM -- *just* the VM -- is.�� (Not sure what the point of that is.)�� It
>>>> doesn't work with the current Squeak image from the website. I did
>>>> eventually manage to get a compatible image ... via FTP.�� Good grief.�� (Good
>>>> enough to learn the ropes, I suppose.)
>>>>
>>>> I really didn't want to go the Gnu Smalltalk road, but in desperation I
>>>> tried it. Under both Crunchbang and Debian Jessie, the gst-browser package
>>>> falls over immediately when you start it, a great big error trace I won't
>>>> bother to paste here.�� These are packages in the *repository*. Is no-one
>>>> maintaining them?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The point of this rant is to give context to the following:�� thank you.
>>>> Really, thank you, to the folks behind Pharo and everyone reading this.
>>>>
>>>> This is the problem with FOSS: blink, and yesterday's rave technology is
>>>> gone. And Smalltalk is *important* -- I'm not a Smalltalk programmer, but
>>>> every time I play with it I learn so much about OOP, programming, and good
>>>> design of classes.�� And I keep coming back to try to work with it again,
>>>> because it offers things I want and just can't get elsewhere.�� The idea that
>>>> Smalltalk might one day just ... not run? Not worth thinking about.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Okay, broke a cardinal rule here.�� Apologies for joining a mailing list
>>>> and then immediately posting a long rant.�� Going to Lurk Mode now!
>>>>
>>>> Shadow.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Look through time and find your rhyme / Tell us what you find / We will
>> wait at your gate / Hoping like the blind.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Mariano
> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

--
Look through time and find your rhyme / Tell us what you find / We
will wait at your gate / Hoping like the blind.

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http://marianopeck.wordpress.com