Hi,

> On Sep 25, 2016, at 6:16 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> yes all I did is to open the sources file in a text editor and see which one was the last line, that means it includes empty lines too. So 500k sound normal to me.
>
> Personally as a user I rarely care about the size because I rarely care to modify the existing image . For me its more important to have more features that make my work easier.
>
> Also bare in mind in case of Ruby as with Python, that there is A LOT of C involved which is a very verbose language and of course that includes VM and low level parts that in the case of Pharo are not included in the image.

I only counted the rb files, not the C ones (see the script) :)

Doru



> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:46 PM Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > On Sep 25, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Totally agree with the slides apart from "Pharo is Small" , the syntax may be but the whole environment last time I checked was 700k lines of code
> > which is huge for a dynamic language. Of course that is far from bad at least for me, I love powerful environments over minimal solutions.
>
>
> Just for reference, Pharo 5 has:
> Smalltalk allClasses sumNumbers: #linesOfCode ���515500"
>
> This is still a lot, but we should compare against a language + IDE + compiler + collections + version management system + project dependency system + several significant other libraries. This might turn out to be quite small in the end :).
>
> But, one thing I would stress is that "Pharo is Uniform���. This is what in the end makes it seem ���Small���.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
>
> > You reminded me that I neeed to update my "Why Pharo" video :)
> >
> > Great work
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 2:43 PM Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
> > Hi Stephan,
> >
> > > On 25 Sep 2016, at 13:07, Stephan Eggermont <stephan@stack.nl> wrote:
> > >
> > > I finally found the time to put the slides and narrative together
> > >
> > > https://medium.com/@stephan_32833/pharo-50c66685913c#.jeou548z7
> > >
> > > Stephan
> >
> > Great article, super cool slides, well done. I especially appreciate how you guys managed to make so many good points in such a deceptively simple and clear text���������that takes a lot of work.
> >
> > Any chance you would like to submit it too 'Concerning Pharo' publication [https://medium.com/concerning-pharo] ? Just send a submission and I would love to add it.
> >
> > Sven
> >
> >
>
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