I know, I still use it, along with VA Java and VA C++ (the COBOL I can live without, tbh).��

I use them largely for prototyping, and when I need to do weird things like creating micro VM���s with cross VM client/server software in order to create enough traffic to test things like monitoring virtualized Cisco routers.

They���re also damnably fast on a modern machine, lol.�� I have one laptop with OS/2 v. 5, an i5 with 16GB RAM.�� It just flies.

VA Java with Java 1.4.2 makes it easier to create reliable Java than any other Java IDE I���ve used.�� Much of the syntactic parmesan that���s been added to Java since only hurts reliability (by hiding what you���re actually doing) and makes stack traces useless.�� 1.4.2 was stable compared with earlier versions, but didn���t have the issues that started coming in with Java 5 based on the need to ���keep up��� with features in other languages.

Btw, try writing a CORBA app without VA Java and VA C++ ���

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From: Marten Feldtmann
Sent: Monday, November 6, 2017 3:52 AM
To: Any question about pharo is welcome
Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] perspective request for those earning alivingfromSmalltalk

Am 06.11.2017 um 09:36 schrieb Andrew Glynn:

> They did just release 5.0 in June, lol.

>

VisualAge Smalltalk 6.01 for OS/2 is still running without any problems ...

Marten

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Marten Feldtmann