On 4/11/14 13:53, kilon alios wrote:

I have welcomed Amber with open arms, but I have failed miserably to wrap my head around it.��

Is ironic if you think about, Pharo really lacks documentation even in basic areas,

Are you joking? I spend my time writing books and chapters and their quality is quite good.

libraries are nowhere near as powerful as those offered by javascript yet I have found Pharo way easier to use. Web development looks to me like a big pile of unnecessary mess. Actually Amber is the best part of it :D

So the problem for me is not so much the System Browser , but the steep learning curve . Or maybe its just the fact that I dont like many of the web frameworkds, including html / js / css etc.��

I wish I could make something in pharo and click a button to deploy it as a website but alas thats just a dream.

I would like to have a solution for that without having a smalltalk compiler in JS as amber is doing.

I think however that for the amount of developers Amber has been making some amazing progress.��

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Pierce Ng <pierce@samadhiweb.com> wrote:

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:21:18PM +0200, kilon alios wrote:
> Even though I always have been a supporter of Amber the IDE has still a
> very long way to go.

I've been meaning to build a code browser for Amber (and GST) in Pharo with
Omnibrowser using the Shampoo protocol[1], once I get some copious spare time.

[1] http://dmitrymatveev.co.uk/shampoo

Pierce