You are lucky that you hate windoom sometimes, I hate it all the time :D

Yes as I said I am very happy so far with StreamSockets and I have found ways to minimise the socket communications so that the user don't experience any noticeable lag so I don't currently need either 0mq or nanomsg. So its unlikely that I will be wrapping nanomsg any time soon since my hands are already full with bringing Blender features to Pharo.

I have done some very basic benchmarks with StreamSocket and it gives me around 1ms from the messages I am sending which is usually just small bytestring of one line of python code. It will be rare to want to send more than 100 messages in under a second since it would be better in that case if the code is that big to write a python module from pharo and load it to python. So speed for now does not seem an issue for me.��

Even if I notice delays my second option will be websockets. And if that is not good enough I could venture in the real of shared memory but I rather not.��

There are many things one wishes and wants to do, but in the end time is very limited.�� I also love to keep things easy and simple because I know how easy it is to underestimate the difficulty of things to do. Right now I ask myself what is the very easy things I can do with Pharo that can be practically useful for me. So far python and pharo sockets have been very easy and I am very happy with them. Its a lot of fun to manipulate external applications from pharo.��

On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Alain Rastoul <alf.mmm.cat@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Kilon,

I wanted to make some experiments with Nanomsg this morning, but had
some problems to build the libraries (they is no prebuilt binaries for windows):
I discovered that the system path of my os
has been scratched by some recent mercurial installation,
the user path scratched by delphi and bonus, my mingw/cygwin install seems to be sick too.
sometimes I hate windows :( - or is this a sign ?

btw, my feeling about nanomsg is that it is still in beta, and 0mq much more advanced
(they say some users includes AT&T, Cisco, EA, Los Alamos Labs, NASA, Weta Digital, Zynga,
Spotify, Samsung Electronics, Microsoft, and CERN - not too bad).
The material about it (docs, presentations) sounds good too.
Not saying that nanomsg is not good, may be it will be the best in few years, but at that
time I have a small preference in favour of 0mq.

This part is not essential for me right now (the same as you if I understand)
and I have lot of other things to finish, so I will delay it for some time,
but I am still interested in your experiments too : bindings, benchs, findings.

Regards,

Alain

Le 10/10/2014 20:12, kilon alios a ��crit :

I am interested too, my project depends on streamsocket to send python
commands from pharo to blender . So far I have not stressed it too much
and it looks like it works fast enough. Maybe something like websockets
or nanomsg is better for me in the long run so I too keep an eye on
these solutions. Time will tell.