stepharo:
I am not saying it for me, but to get other people into the Smalltalk community. My interest in Smalltalk spark the first time I read the��Design Principles Behind Smalltalk, since then I:
1- Read the BlueBook (yes) before I know of Pharo;
2- Read "I Can Read C++ and Java But I Can���t Read Smalltalk";
3- Read a number of Smalltalk resources, tutorials, blogs etc;��
4- Did Profstef;
5- Learn a little of Redline Smalltalk;
6- Tried Squeek, didn't like;
7- Find Pharo, like it more than Squeek;
8- Read Pharo By Example almost entirely, the first example didn't work (at least at the time) because some dependencies were missing, then I search into the internet, found what was missing and keep going;
9- Did the MOOC ENTIRELY, and I saw all the videos, yes!
So, is there any other thing you think I��maybe��haven't done, despite the fact that you don't know me much?��
As for someone who did the MOOC, I don't think it's a good tutorial in the lines I understand Richard described in the start of this thread: for newcomers. Don't get me wrong, it's a very good course if you would like to get more deep into Pharo and OO, but I understand the intention of Richard was other. So, except from Porfstef, I think none of those resources is a good start point for newcomers, because none of them were good for me nor the people I tried to introduce Pharo. I just keep going because I was already VERY interested in Smalltalk, if not for that I would have also��given up.
My opinion is only that, an opinion, you can take it or not, it was not meant to be personal or whatever, but if you wanna take it as so there isn't much I can do.��
Phil:
Thanks for your suggestions, but I was just telling Richard that I think the MOOC was too much for a tutorial, that I think other format and something simpler would be better for newcomers.
Dimitri:
I am already on STEP 4 ;)
I think what is missing is something before all that, something that spark the "I am interested in Pharo", the STEP 0. What does that today? I think a simple tutorial that catch the attention of people would do that. Right now I think it is too hard for someone to get interested in Smalltalk in general, and Pharo in particular, because something like that is missing, and one must really understand and see the value of Smalltalk to persist and keep going and learning, like happened to me.
Regards,
Vitor