Hey Esteban - understood. So it sounds like - quickly walk through all your project packages - add a little comment "upgrade to new tonel formt" and then commit (with everyone checked in before) sounds like the way to go.

I'll get on that with projects that I work with.

It does of course imply everyone move up to P12 (from P11) to avoid flip flopping between formats - and I don't think there is any reason to stick to P11 as P12 seems solid and without anything controversial to hold back on.

Thanks for pushing things forward.

Tim

On Mon, 13 May 2024, at 6:31 AM, Esteban Lorenzano via Pharo-users wrote:

Hi,

This is indeed a noisy change. That's the reason it was a change we were holding back during years, but at a point we needed to do it (there is a spec for tonel format we made together with Gemstone people and at a point, we needed to go to the agreed definition.

So, yes... this will cause annoying moments until all projects are migrated. My recommendation is to make a PR with the new format and work from there.

Esteban

ps: there will be still some noise, next year, since we need to clean up a bit around... I am sorry in advance.

On 12/05/2024 23:55, stephane ducasse wrote:
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On 12 May 2024, at 06:21, Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works> wrote:

Asking this here as it didn���t get much traction on Discord - but with the move to P12, the category format in Tonel has changed from a symbol to a string e.g.  { #category : #examples } vs { #category : 'examples' } - this causes mega noise when submitting tiny PR's - how is everyone else handling this? Should projects resave every project module to get the new format while people are out of the pool? Or is there a way to force the old format on specific projects until they can be upgraded ?

It seems like a change whose consequences need some attention ?

What are others doing?

Tim

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