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Today's Topics:

�� ��1. Re: Active IRC Chanel (Esteban Lorenzano)
�� ��2. Re: Iceberg, Git and Package version (Esteban Lorenzano)
�� ��3. Re: Iceberg, Git and Package version (Esteban Lorenzano)
�� ��4. Hi, do I nowadays need any Id and psw, to log in smalltalk
�� �� �� hub and others? (Janko Korelc)
�� ��5. Re: Iceberg, Git and Package version (Vitor Medina Cruz)


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:��Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>
To:��Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>
Cc:��
Bcc:��
Date:��Thu, 21 Dec 2017 11:10:55 +0100
Subject:��Re: [Pharo-users] Active IRC Chanel


> On 21 Dec 2017, at 08:27, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On 21 Dec 2017, at 04:34, Ian Ian <icjohnsoia@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Is there an active IRC Chanel?
>
> No. There is (or was) an inactive one.
>
>
>> Read somewhere (can't remember) that there is one labeled #pharo.�� Is this true if so may I ask on which server it resides?
>>
>
>
> I guess it is still there, it was on freenode I think.
>
> The Discord chat is quite active. For me it works much better than IRC. Maybe I had just a bad IRC
> client, but it never was a nice experience.

yes.
I don���t understand why, but #irc channel never worked while discord works pretty well and is very active.
I mean��� at the end, discord is no more than a glorified irc, but well��� one works and the other don���t :)

Esteban

>
>�� �� �� ��Marcus





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From:��Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>
To:��Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>
Cc:��
Bcc:��
Date:��Thu, 21 Dec 2017 11:22:59 +0100
Subject:��Re: [Pharo-users] Iceberg, Git and Package version

On 20 Dec 2017, at 19:51, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

How are packages versions computed in Iceberg?

I am looking at the Metacello documentation at 'Deep in Pharo', it says I can define dependencies at package level and it uses the following format to identify versions: <dev_name.versionNumber>; which I think is a pattern used by Monticello, right? However, I can't figure what is the equivalent (if any) in Iceberg.

Thanks in Advance,

Vitor

Hi Vitor,��

Package versions do not have any sense on iceberg, where what has sense is the ���project��� version. All packages point to a commit in repo. ��

This is to say, you do not load single package in iceberg but you load a repository version (which is the commit).��

That���s why you use Metacello expressions like this:��

Metacello new��

repository: ���github://someuser/someproject:sometag';

baseline: ���Blah���;

load.

and in your baselines, when you include another project you do��

spec��

baseline: ���Blah���

with: [ spec repository: ���github://someuser/someproject:sometag'��].

cheers!

Esteban

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From:��Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>
To:��Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>
Cc:��
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Date:��Thu, 21 Dec 2017 12:02:54 +0100
Subject:��Re: [Pharo-users] Iceberg, Git and Package version

On 21 Dec 2017, at 11:03, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com> wrote:

Then in a Metacello configuration should I reference the hash git commit or a tag in a version method? For example, an extract from Deep in Pharo:

ConfigurationOfCoolToolSet>>version02: spec
<version: '0.2' imports: #('0.2-baseline' )>
spec for: #common do: [
spec blessing: #beta.
spec
package: 'CoolToolSet-Core' with: 'CoolToolSet-Core-AlanJay.1';
package: 'CoolToolSet-Tests' with: 'CoolToolSet-Tests-AlanJay.1';
project: 'CoolBrowser default' with: '1.3';
project: 'CoolBrowser Tests' with: '1.3���].

the thing is: you don���t use configurations with iceberg projects, you use baselines.

Esteban

In this case�� 'CoolToolSet-Core-AlanJay.1' would be changed by 'CoolToolSet-Core-<git_hash>'?

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:

In iceberg you can specify
- latest version when you do not specify anything
- a version (but it should be a git tag so you should save you code
with a tag - iceberg does not support it right now but you can do it
with git)
- the hash of your git commit.

Does it answer your question?
Stef

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> How are packages versions computed in Iceberg?
>
> I am looking at the Metacello documentation at 'Deep in Pharo', it says I
> can define dependencies at package level and it uses the following format to
> identify versions: <dev_name.versionNumber>; which I think is a pattern used
> by Monticello, right? However, I can't figure what is the equivalent (if
> any) in Iceberg.
>
> Thanks in Advance,
> Vitor

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From:��Janko Korelc <dazajn.korelc@gmail.com>
To:��pharo-users@lists.pharo.org
Cc:��
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Date:��Thu, 21 Dec 2017 13:50:11 +0100
Subject:��[Pharo-users] Hi, do I nowadays need any Id and psw, to log in smalltalk hub and others?

... as connection time out...

Best Regards!

Janko Korelc

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:��Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com>
To:��Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>
Cc:��
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Date:��Thu, 21 Dec 2017 11:43:23 -0200
Subject:��Re: [Pharo-users] Iceberg, Git and Package version

Package versions do not have any sense on iceberg, where what has sense is the ���project��� version. All packages point to a commit in repo.��

Oh, I suspected that, but was unsure :)

the thing is: you don���t use configurations with iceberg projects, you use baselines.

Now I got lost, I had understand that a ConfigurationOfXXX is my project definition and that Iceberg is just the Pharo VCS (in substitution of monticello). Iceberg is now my project? How do I configure my dependencies, groups and versions? The Metacello documentation in Deep in Pharo is deprecated for Iceberg?

cheers,

Vitor

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 21 Dec 2017, at 11:03, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com> wrote:

Then in a Metacello configuration should I reference the hash git commit or a tag in a version method? For example, an extract from Deep in Pharo:

ConfigurationOfCoolToolSet>>version02: spec
<version: '0.2' imports: #('0.2-baseline' )>
spec for: #common do: [
spec blessing: #beta.
spec
package: 'CoolToolSet-Core' with: 'CoolToolSet-Core-AlanJay.1';
package: 'CoolToolSet-Tests' with: 'CoolToolSet-Tests-AlanJay.1';
project: 'CoolBrowser default' with: '1.3';
project: 'CoolBrowser Tests' with: '1.3���].

the thing is: you don���t use configurations with iceberg projects, you use baselines.

Esteban

In this case�� 'CoolToolSet-Core-AlanJay.1' would be changed by 'CoolToolSet-Core-<git_hash>'?

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:

In iceberg you can specify
- latest version when you do not specify anything
- a version (but it should be a git tag so you should save you code
with a tag - iceberg does not support it right now but you can do it
with git)
- the hash of your git commit.

Does it answer your question?
Stef

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormcruz@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> How are packages versions computed in Iceberg?
>
> I am looking at the Metacello documentation at 'Deep in Pharo', it says I
> can define dependencies at package level and it uses the following format to
> identify versions: <dev_name.versionNumber>; which I think is a pattern used
> by Monticello, right? However, I can't figure what is the equivalent (if
> any) in Iceberg.
>
> Thanks in Advance,
> Vitor

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