that is exactly the problem i have <embarrassed grin>, RTBox does not understand�� #translateTo: or #translateBy:
a:=RTBox new .
a translateTo: 1@2.-->Error:MessageNotUnderstood
iow at which point exactly do i apply #translateTo: ?

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That's because RTBox is just a shape, and shape doesn't have position. You need to apply it to an element (RTElement).

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