Yes I stand corrected, with unsigned ints and optimisations turned on the time for C++ for multiplication drops from 3.13 to 0.39 thats an almost 10 times speed up , with doubles and max optimisation on its 0.9

Yes I am using Pharo 32 bit. I think so, unless vmLatest now downloads Pharo 64 bit.��

So the conclusion is that C++ without the max optimisation on is almost as fast as Pharo. ��

Still 10 times diffirence is not bad at all , on the other hand CPython3 on my iMac needs 118 seconds to finish the multiplication and for some strange reason the python 2.7 included with macos just hangs there forever.��

So Cpython at for me appears around 30-20 times slower... which is kinda weird too. But then Cpython has no JIT VM.��