On 18/06/18 09:47, Herbert Voj����k wrote:

Do you have enough balls to call out Steph for his obviously wrong decision to push Launcher down the users' throats and make him revert to working installers / zips? Cause AFAICT there's the bottleneck atm.

First, it was MY decision.

My apologies to blaming Steph.

I���m pushing launcher as the default download for Pharo since year now.
Do I am happy with it not working on windows right now? Of course not. But pushing it also in windows has already forced us to fix some bugs there and a new version of the launcher (and a better Pharo on windows) and at the result will be good.
I was going to suspend the launcher as the default download until a better version arrived, but I���ve been told that will happen this week, so I will wait.

Second, we have a lot of bottlenecks, but is true this is important.

Third, please restrain your self to talk like that in the future. Is rude and unnecessary.

I won't. Sometimes it seems this kind of talk is needed. Windows launcher was not working for so long but it is still pushed as the default download option, because "higher goals" I presume. If this kind of talk helps to get rid of it until working (or make it finally actually work), it is anything but unnecessary.

I don't see how this "Macho Programmer Culture" mixing genitalia size with community behavior and admin choices is necessary. But I see why, for sure, non-(white)-males feel so unwelcome in developers communities when some members feels such "necessity" of addressing others with such language and when pointed to that, just reinforce their choices.

Best,

Offray