On 23 Jan 2019, at 14:22, Cyril Ferlicot <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 2:13 PM Siemen Baader <siemenbaader@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Hello,

I���m a very happy Iliad user but I���m wondering if it would make sense to switch to Seaside for commercial development since it has a larger user base. I have only used Seaside briefly to try it out and found I was more happy with Iliad back then, but now I���d like to hear your input. Especially from those of you who use it for business applications with paying customers. My questions are:

- does Seaside support partial updates of the DOM, like Iliad, or do I need to refresh the whole website for every interaction?

You can use JQuery with ajax to refresh part of the page.

You can check for example this component in MDL that is working with ajax:

https://mdl.ferlicot.fr/mdl/Widgets/DatePicker

- Iliad has REST-like URLS that look clean and can be shared, Seaside seems not to. Is this possible with Seaside?

It is possible to have rest-like URLs sharable, but when using the
application you will still have the hash of the session and callback
key in the URL (It seems not clean but it's sharable).

Example:

https://mdl.ferlicot.fr/mdl/Components/Badges

To do that you can, yourself, write part of your urls depending on the
state of your Seaside application. Then, when a user get an URL, you
can customize the state of your application from the user request
containing the URL with the sub paths and the fields.

We talked with Johan not long ago about clean URLs. It's possible to
have them by storing the fields in cookies, but it mean that you can
only have one session by browser.

- directly writing javascript. I suppose there is a WAComponent that can emit raw JS?

It is possible to ship the application with javascript files or to
directly inject javascript in the application.

- what is the status of Websocket / Comet in Seaside?

I am using sucessfuly Zinc's Websockets in Seaside.

It is used in this Seaside project: https://demos.ferlicot.fr/TelescopeDemo

I don't know for Comet.

Is there anything else I should consider?

thanks,
Siemen

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Cyril Ferlicot
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