yes all I did is to open the sources file in a text editor and see which one was the last line, that means it includes empty lines too. So 500k sound normal to me.

Personally as a user I rarely care about the size because I rarely care to modify the existing image . For me its more important to have more features that make my work easier.

Also bare in mind in case of Ruby as with Python, that there is A LOT of C involved which is a very verbose language and of course that includes VM and low level parts that in the case of Pharo are not included in the image.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:46 PM Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:

Hi,

> On Sep 25, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Totally agree with the slides apart from "Pharo is Small" , the syntax may be but the whole environment last time I checked was 700k lines of code
> which is huge for a dynamic language. Of course that is far from bad at least for me, I love powerful environments over minimal solutions.

Just for reference, Pharo 5 has:
Smalltalk allClasses sumNumbers: #linesOfCode ��515500"

This is still a lot, but we should compare against a language + IDE + compiler + collections + version management system + project dependency system + several significant other libraries. This might turn out to be quite small in the end :).

But, one thing I would stress is that "Pharo is Uniform��. This is what in the end makes it seem ��Small��.

Cheers,
Doru

> You reminded me that I neeed to update my "Why Pharo" video :)
>
> Great work
>
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 2:43 PM Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
> Hi Stephan,
>
> > On 25 Sep 2016, at 13:07, Stephan Eggermont <stephan@stack.nl> wrote:
> >
> > I finally found the time to put the slides and narrative together
> >
> > https://medium.com/@stephan_32833/pharo-50c66685913c#.jeou548z7
> >
> > Stephan
>
> Great article, super cool slides, well done. I especially appreciate how you guys managed to make so many good points in such a deceptively simple and clear text��that takes a lot of work.
>
> Any chance you would like to submit it too 'Concerning Pharo' publication [https://medium.com/concerning-pharo] ? Just send a submission and I would love to add it.
>
> Sven
>
>

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