Hi all,

�I did not remember well the discussions about serial ports.
�But there are some infos there:
http://www.mail-archive.com/pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr/msg31411.html
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1057
�Perhaps Serge knows more about it now?�
#Luc


2011/1/26 St�phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>
Thanks david.

We are picky and strict about license because we do not want to get burned again with issues.

Stef

> There should be no license concern. The named serial support is provided
> in the SerialPlugin, and the update is of course MIT.
>
> Background is here:
> �http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7266
>
> I don't think that patches are included in the oscog branch yet (but I
> am not able to check right now, sorry).
>
> In any case, don't worry about the license.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 05:25:55PM +0100, St?phane Ducasse wrote:
>> Yes so I would ban the code and we will fix it ourselves.
>> We do not want to end in 30 different variant of the MIT license.
>> They should not have change the license like that....
>> Error is repeating itself.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 4:42 PM, James Ashley wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't looked at the official license.txt, but the summary looks
>>> quite a bit different than what I (or the GNU foundation) consider
>>> "the" MIT license, at http://www.jclark.com/xml/copying.txt.
>>>
>>> Not that I'm a lawyer or my opinion means anything at all here.
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>> James
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Joan G?ell <jguell@e-citilab.eu> wrote:
>>>> Hi Stef,
>>>> As you can see at http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Source_Code, the Scratch
>>>> license seems to be MIT. Textually:
>>>>
>>>> "The Scratch source code license allows you to distribute derivative works
>>>> based on the Scratch source code for non-commercial uses subject to the
>>>> following restrictions:
>>>>
>>>> you cannot use the word "Scratch" to refer to derivative �works (except in
>>>> the phrase "Based on Scratch from the MIT Media Laboratory"),
>>>> you cannot use the Scratch logo or the official (copyrighted) Scratch cat in
>>>> derivative works,
>>>> you cannot implement the ability to upload projects to any MIT Scratch
>>>> website (currently, http://scratch.mit.edu),
>>>> copies or derivative works must retain the Scratch copyright notice and
>>>> license, and
>>>> you must make the source code for derivative works available.
>>>>
>>>> This is just a summary; the full license is in the file "license.txt"
>>>> included in the source code download package.
>>>>
>>>> The purpose of these restrictions is to avoid confusion in the Scratch user
>>>> community between the official version of Scratch (supported by the Lifelong
>>>> Kindergarten group) and experimental variations. We are happy the share our
>>>> source code, but we want to protect the Scratch brand and our user
>>>> community."
>>>>
>>>> You can find the license.txt file attached.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Joan.
>>>> El 26/01/2011, a las 16:07, St?phane Ducasse escribi?:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Joan
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Yes we should fix that.
>>>> What is the license of Scratch?
>>>>
>>>> Stef
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 26, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Joan G?ell wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>> We are developing software to interact with small robots for educational
>>>> purposes. To do this we need to use the serial port. SerialPort class that
>>>> includes Pharo does not work on mac or linux, because it?s not �able to open
>>>> ports by name.
>>>>
>>>> It would be interesting that future versions include a SerialPort that would
>>>> work in these circumstances. �we are using since a time a?go the plugin that
>>>> comes with Scratch, with this we just copy the plugins in the folder of the
>>>> VM, the Plugin that comes with the VM Scrath, and add to the image of the
>>>> image classes of Scratch , ScratchPlugin and SerialPort2.Up to date this has
>>>> worked on all VM including the latest Cog.
>>>>
>>>> It works on Linux, Mac or Windows.We wory that future versions will lose
>>>> support.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The source code for the plugins can be found on:
>>>>
>>>> http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Source_Code
>>>>
>>>> ScratchPluginSrc1.4.zip
>>>>
>>>> Joan G?ell
>>>>
>>>> jguell@e-citilab.eu
>>>>
>>>> Joan G?ell
>>>>
>>>> jguell@e-citilab.eu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joan G?ell
>>>> jguell@e-citilab.eu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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