thanks for this extensive explanation. That looks all really good but I think I'm looking for the exact opposite. You arrange a lot of pieces in a huge environment and you make it bootstrap itself. The environment/project is defined and all parts need to work together. I'm looking for help doing simple tasks. I have a lot of bash scripts but there is a border of complexity where shell scripts become a pain in the spine. And even more important I'm faster with smalltalk then with bash so I just need an easy entrance to the world/image here.

I did some of this in the past with preloaded code that can be triggered by commandline handlers. But you get easily the problem that you need to load new code in the image before you can use it from the commandline which somewhat defeats the purpose. I would like something in between: Having supporting code in the image but I'm also able to do the same scripts from the shell. So you can easily move responsibility of things between commandline and image.

Am 24.07.2014 um 16:07 schrieb Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com>:

Norbert,

I've just recently made the decision to start using Pharo3.0 to do all of the heavy lifting for my GsDevKit project[1] shell scripts.

I use boilerplate bash code to setup the environment[2] and then call Pharo CommandLineHandler[3] to do the real work ...

I embed the script repository[4] in the project, so the script code matches the directory structure and I build the command line pharo image[5] as part of my installation.

I've been pretty pleased with the results, too. It's pretty straightforward to run the scripts from within an interactive Pharo for debugging and it beats the heck out of trying to do *simple things* with bash...

My only wish is that CommandLine had better getopts support - I have a posix getopts commandline parser implementation that iI use for tODE that I'd be willing to share ... hint hint:).

Dale

[1] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome#open-source-development-kit-for-gemstones-64-bit
[2] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/master/bin/createStone
[3] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/master/bin/createStone#L78-82

[4] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/tree/master/repository
[5] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/master/bin/createTodeImage#L67-93

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 3:37 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name> wrote:

What are you using to do jobs on the commandline. I'm sick of doing bash and sed,perl,jq,... stuff. What would be the quickest start when using a normal image? And what if I want to give coral a start. Does it work in 3.0? Best place to load stuff from?

thanks,

Norbert