On 26 May 2015, at 19:20, Ben Coman <btc@openInWorld.com> wrote:

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

On 26 May 2015, at 18:16, Ben Coman <btc@openInWorld.com> wrote:

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote:
Ben Coman wrote
We should at least change the Nautilus title bar to  "Nautilus System
Browser" (or just "System Browser" ?)

Part of the problem is that we have overloaded system categories to package
code for SCM. System categories should be tags (preferably multiple allowed)
which offer a logical view of the system. Packages, the POV we show now, are
orthogonal and much less useful for users.

The other complication is that we have jumped onto the fad now to have cool
names for all software projects which offer no guidance as to what the code
actually does - a la Ruby, Sinatra, Rails. While this mysteriousness may
generate excitement for the project, it seems far less useful once we
integrate things in the image. What does/could Nautilus mean to a new user?
Taking a cue from Mac - the core apps are called Mail, Contacts, Maps,
Notes; not Sandcastle, Cabana, SkippingStone, and Umbrella ;) At least Opal
has the word Compiler attached to it!

Agreed. Also take a cue from Microsoft and their successful
applications (I wonder what they could possibly be uesed for?):
* Word
* SQLServer
* Internet Explorer
* Publisher
* Media Player

Of course the incumbent players have the luxury of already having an
audience to take the dominant position on the app names. But the
situation is a bit the same for tools delivered by by default with the
standard Image.

I disagree with this way.
We are not building an OS (regardless the original intentions of smalltalk) and this profusion of names are generating more confusion than benefits, thinking on new users.
For me, intention revealing names needs to be applied not just to the methods and classes we code, but also the tools we use. Then, fantasy names are just that, fantasy.
In fact, I was planning a couple of sessions to get an idea of how can we do to have the system in a more clear way. Something like:

- System Browser (Nautilus)

then if we change it it can be

- System Browser (GCoder) (Or whatever the  name gtools guys are planning).
- System Browser (AltBrowser)

or whatever��� same for other ���mysterious��� tools like monticello (who can know that monticello is a SCM, as a newbie?).
A lot better:

- SCM (Monticello)
- SCM (Other)

etc.
So��� I think is better to change ���Nautilus��� title to ���System Browser���.

The potential downside is a newcomer wanting to look look into the
System Browser implementation, and not finding a class named "System
Browser" to review.  Maybe they would discover the ImplementationClass
(e.g. Nautilus) anyway by digging into the tool using halos (?).

I���m not sure I want a newcomer to look at nautilus code ;)
Sarcasm aside, I get your concern but I remain thinking I have a strong point. Anyway that can be somewhere in the about��� or we can rename it as "System Browser (Nautilus)��� in the title, or something like that, we still need to work to have the best solution. Only thing is clear to me is current situation is not good at all :)






Esteban


cheers -ben