One other point.�� When I saw the subject line "Smalltalk's successor",
I expected to read that *Pharo* already is Smalltalk's successor, what with traits and GT and direct support for Git &c.
I think "The future of Smalltalk is not far-off it's Pharo and it's here"
is a claim that could well be made.

On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 at 13:44, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com> wrote:
Am I starting to hallucinate, or did I read some time in the last year that there are plans for a "long term stability" branch of Pharo?�� That had me giving thanks.�� Pharo is splendid, and that will give us the best of both worlds: a stable base for development WITHOUT holding back development of Pharo itself.

I think St��phane Ducasse may have completely misunderstood me.�� I wonder what he thinks my "choice" is?�� The only choice I'm aware of making is to continue being engaged with Pharo.�� (Hint: I am not on the Squeak mailing list.�� I don't even know if there is one any more.)�� The unpleasantly disparate nature of "Smalltalk" does not make *Pharo* a bad choice, it just means that anyone who develops in Pharo with the aim of deploying in VW is facing a much harder task than they might have been led to expect.

I would also like to praise S.D. and his merry band for
(a) the free Smalltalk books
(b) the continuing series of books specifically about Pharo.
Is there some way I can contribute to the Pharo book(let)s?
I'm not too bad at proof-reading.





On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 at 01:43, St��phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
"Protect me from my friends I will deal with my ennemies."

�� �� �� �� Pharo is Pharo.

�� �� �� �� The smalltalk community likes to complain but we prefer to invent the future.
�� �� �� �� For the record we are helping companies to DELIVER and we are engaging
�� �� �� �� any people that want to invent the future with us.

�� �� �� �� I have often the impression that having success is bad in this wonderful communauty

�� �� �� �� Horrido can���t you spend your energy in something more productive?
�� �� �� �� What a drag?

�� �� �� �� Richard O���Keefe, this is a pity because we will never learn much from your experience.
�� �� �� �� Anyway this is your choice but a strange one.��

�� �� �� �� I would love to have a type inferencer for Pharo.

�� �� �� �� Sorry no time to spend more time on this.

S.

I did not do Pharo for ego I did it because else I would have join Lua or Python
because Squeak and VW were killing my Smalltalk flame.
I prefer doing than talking.