Nothing, that's precisely my point! So we don't need to talk about balls size, with the implicit gender assumptions about courage and the "Macho Programmer" way of argumentation, that is toxic in *other* communities for minorities (non white, non cisgender, non male) which usually repeals them for participation.

So, yes, lets focus on a better installing Pharo experience on Windows.

Cheers,

Offray


On 18/06/18 13:39, Travis Ayres wrote:
What does not talking like an asshole have to do with being white and male?

...seriously?

On Mon, Jun 18, 2018, 11:31 AM Offray Vladimir Luna C��rdenas <offray.luna@mutabit.com> wrote:



On 18/06/18 09:47, Herbert Voj����k wrote:
Do you have enough balls to call out Steph for his obviously wrong decision to push Launcher down the users' throats and make him revert to working installers / zips? Cause AFAICT there's the bottleneck atm.

First, it was MY decision.

My apologies to blaming Steph.

I���m pushing launcher as the default download for Pharo since year now.
Do I am happy with it not working on windows right now? Of course not. But pushing it also in windows has already forced us to fix some bugs there and a new version of the launcher (and a better Pharo on windows) and at the result will be good.
I was going to suspend the launcher as the default download until a better version arrived, but I���ve been told that will happen this week, so I will wait.

Second, we have a lot of bottlenecks, but is true this is important.

Third, please restrain your self to talk like that in the future. Is rude and unnecessary.

I won't. Sometimes it seems this kind of talk is needed. Windows launcher was not working for so long but it is still pushed as the default download option, because "higher goals" I presume. If this kind of talk helps to get rid of it until working (or make it finally actually work), it is anything but unnecessary.

I don't see how this "Macho Programmer Culture" mixing genitalia size with community behavior and admin choices is necessary. But I see why, for sure, non-(white)-males feel so unwelcome in developers communities when some members feels such "necessity" of addressing others with such language and when pointed to that, just reinforce their choices.

Best,

Offray