Hi Chris,
I'm sorry to say that your advice didn't work. Worse: The Squeak community has lost a valuable contributor, a prime mover in the patterns and agile communities and the author of several books on OO. My friend wrote:
" I still can���t find a version of Squeak for my Mac that will run Trygve���s current BabyIDE. At this point, even if one appears, it is obvious that my dependence on ���the introvert Squeak community��� will put me in a much more fragile position than with any of my other concept proofs. It will be extremely difficult to build a future on such fragile foundations."
I came to Xerox PARC and Smalltalk in 1978 where I made my contributions to Smalltalk-80. Since then, I have been working almost exclusively with Smalltalk. My company invested in a VW class library of more than 100,000 lines of Smalltalk code and used it in our consulting. A strong selling point was that our tenders were accompanied by a demo version of the program we offered to deliver. Our library and applications were repeatedly threatened by new versions of VW. The code is now dead; there is no VM that will run our old images. The investment is lost.
I hoped Squeak would be better. It isn't. Squeak is less stable than VW ever was. My new programming paradigm, DCI, is supported by BabyIDE that runs under Squeak 3.10. I have ported BabyIDE to 4.5, but there are new bugs caused by differences between 3.10 and 4.5. The result is that I have reverted to 3.10 because it's too much hassle to run after the stream of Squeak releases. I thought Pharo would be better, but their mailing list conversations indicate that they do not understand that developers need a stable foundation for their work.
The result is that I too leave Smalltalk and concentrate on other environments. A pity, because I still believe Smalltalk has the potential to become a superior environment for non-professional programmers. I am particularly thinking of children and experts such as computational chemists who use computers in their work.
It's very painful, but I am now terminating development work in Squeak leave the Squeak and Pharo mailing lists. I will continue my work in�� some mainstream language. I have just done some work in Java with Netbeans and I am buying a book on JavaScript. It's heavy going, but better that working for the dustbin.
Cheers
--Trygve
On 31.05.2015 16:52, Trygve Reenskaug�� wrote:
Hi,
A friend of mine is doing some experiments using a Mac and my program Baby IDE.�� BabyIDE is works under Squeak 3.10.2. Is there a binary virtual machine for a current Mac that he can use?
On 31.05.2015 17:00, Chris Cunnington wrote:
You need a non-Cog vm. I usually download any Etoys vm. [1]From there, drag it onto the vm or right click, choose ���Open With��� and choose Etoys.��
Chris��