"Yes we can ask oscar and after will host it also at books.pharo.org and in HTML version too as for all the other books.
Damien P and Damien C are working on a better latex template for pillar generated books."

great to hear, I think not just UPBE but the other books need to be the first thing a newcomer sees when he or she introduced into Pharo because I think Pharo documentation is far better today that it used to be 2 years ago and we need to show the people all the hard work we have done with it.

"pay attention. I think that we should minimize UI elements and external frameworks because else we will have more work in 4 years from now. "

What do you mean ? As you know I am a supporter of pharo modularity but I fail to see how that is related to UPBE and I dont think documenting external frameworks is the focus of UPBE anyway just document what there is in the pharo image by default at least the core stuff that an average user is most likely to use.

By any forms of tutorials and articles I did not mean that I will cram those in UPBE, if they refer to external third party libraries then I will document them in another book. But I was referring to tutorials and articles concering things that are part of the pharo image and they are beginner orientated. For example I am looking at documentation about code critics, update to the pharo catalog docs, Versionner , Kommiter etc

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 2:11 PM stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:

Le 15/10/15 18:12, Dimitris Chloupis a ��crit��:

thanks guys

I can compromise for the time being with the user not going to the website , searching for doc and founding documentation for pharo 1.4 while the version he/she has is pharo 5 when we already have a book that is fairly up to date.

Is there anyone responsible for the PBE website ? Can we make the change ?

Yes we can ask oscar and after will host it also at books.pharo.org and in HTML version too as for all the other books.
Damien P and Damien C are working on a better latex template for pillar generated books.

Also please use this thread to post your blog posts and own tutorials I could use for UPBE. I am in the process of reading the humaneassesment documentation but I welcome also others. Any form of tutorial or article is welcomed.

pay attention. I think that we should minimize UI elements and external frameworks because else we will have more work in 4 years from now.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 6:31 PM Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@inria.fr> wrote:

Hi Dimitris,

Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> writes:

> First of all thanks to all the people helping with the documentation.
>
> Now I think its the time to replace the old PBE with UPBE, we dont
> need to change the website just link to the newest pdf here

I agree UPBE is important. I want to finish EnterprisePharo and the Mooc
first and then focus on UPBE. I want to get printed copies of it in book
stores as we did we the other books. This will take time, but with your
help and the help of the community, we will get there.

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