Yeah, ok. 
But please do not take this thread as a way to defend/criticise other dialects (we all know there is a lot of passion around).
My intention is more to ask ���what is cool of dialect X that you would like Pharo to have too��� or ���how can we make Pharo to be as beautiful and/or enjoyable as you think other dialects are���.

I know this is a very opinionated area. 
I believe Pharo looks and feels better than most of the other dialects, but I���m not stupid, I know there are tons of things to improve and I know there are good ideas/implementations around and I want watch them, to see how can improve even more our Pharo.

So please, stay cool :P

Esteban

On 10 Apr 2019, at 14:06, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck@gmail.com> wrote:



On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 6:21 AM jtuchel@objektfabrik.de <jtuchel@objektfabrik.de> wrote:
Richard,


as a comment on VA Smalltalk: you are referring to the Linux version,
which is also your Screenshot. I agree that Linux version of VA
Smalltalk is far from what I'd call enjoyable or beautiful.
If you take a look at the Windows version of VAST, you'll immediately
realize that Linux users miss a lot of nice stuff that has been added to
VA Smalltalk over the last few releases.

The reason here is most likely that commercial Smalltalk projects mainly
target Windows. This has changed for headless servers and I think it is
slowly starting to happen for GUI clients, but it will take some time.
We developers like Linux, but most of our end users still live and
breathe on Windows. Not that I like it, but it's a fact, at least in the
commercial field.

Joachim

Hi,

I was about to answer same thing. Differently than Pharo, VW etc where the rendering happens inside Smalltalk, in VA Smalltalk, its native. And so, there are differences in the implementations between Unix and Windows. The version in Windows is "much less ugly" than the one on Linux. In the upcoming release we have also added HiDPI, as you can see here: https://twitter.com/MartinezPeck/status/1063432539908571136
And in 9.1, we did fix many UI related things for the Linux flavor, included the shortcuts. If you are still facing issues, please contact us separately (not to spam Pharo list)
 
Best, 

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Mariano Martinez Peck