2011/10/11 St��phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>

On Oct 11, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Bernat Romagosa wrote:

> Maybe I didn't understand right, but what you mean is that Pharo is going to end being free of charge for people who use it commercially?

not at all.
I never say that or even think about it.

We are talking about consortium participation. The all point is how can we make sure that as a community we structure ourselves and put
money or time on the table.

> If so, the fees you propose for single-person companies and small companies look a little bit high to me... I would at least make them depend on the benefits or some other kind of deal. Last year I was trying to set up a small company (a dev + a designer) with a friend of mine, and a fee of 2500�� would have definitely been a big barrier for us...

We should find successful small companies :)
After we should have a free moral license so that companies can contribute.

> Also, you need to make very clear how frequently is the company supposed to pay the fee is it one single payment for life, monthly, yearly?

good points.
yearly.

Stef

>
> Cheers,
>
> 2011/10/11 St��phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>
>
> On Oct 11, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Davorin Rusevljan wrote:
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> > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:09 PM, St��phane Ducasse
> > <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
> >> There some strings attached: We will not be able to pay remote development since this is regulated under the public market french laws
> >> but we will be able to hire people (on french rate if they work in France). ��We will have to see the legal period to spent the money.
> >
> > this restriction applies to 50k Euro given by INRIA, or to total money
> > collected from all members of consortium?
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> All money because it will be managed by INRIA as any other INRIA projects (like our team) and we are all following these rules:
> �� this is not that we cannot but it means that
> �� - we have to spend 2/4-8 weeks to write done what we want
> �� - it will be published in the journal official
> �� - companies will be able to bid
> �� - then there is a selection phase
> �� - then you get the work started to the get done
> �� The problem is that this is lengthly and you have control the result
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> Now depending on the situation and the money collected we will be able to hire people but they will have to be located in france.
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> This is why if the consortium is successful (which we hope) the idea is to get out of INRIA
> but this means that there is nothing like a free lunch
> �� - specific accountant
> �� - balblbaabablabl
> �� - and more
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> Do not hesitate to ask question.
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> Stef
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> >
> > Davorin Rusevljan
> > http://www.cloud208.com/
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> Bernat Romagosa.