On Nov 20, 2018, at 6:32 PM, horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:

Basically, implementing what was outlined in David Buck's document (attached
to the original post). It may involve hacking the VM to count byte codes.

SmalltalkContestIdeas.docx
<http://forum.world.st/file/t128560/SmalltalkContestIdeas.docx>  


Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list wrote

OK, I'll bite.

What does "code the competition" mean exactly?

I last used Smalltalk "in anger" pre-pharo with squeak.  I live ST and am
looking for a way back "in" but
TBH the changes from Squeak are vast and I have too many ideas to work on
and keep hitting walls.

I'm intrigued but need more direction.  Whatcha need - ELI5.

On Nov 20, 2018, at 5:13 PM, horrido &lt;

horrido.hobbies@

&gt; wrote:

No, the money isn't lost. I was merely suggesting that without some help,
the
marketing opportunity for this competition would be lost.

I'm not sure you understand how much work is involved in this project. I
will be doing a great deal of the heavy lifting. I have to setup the
competition website server. I have to advertise or reach out to high
schools
across the country. I have to get local media interested in covering the
competition. I have to look into producing the T-shirt swag, and shipping
the T-shirts to all contest participants, and at an affordable rate to
fit
the budget. Those are only a few things off the top of my head.

Coding the actual contest problems according to David Buck's prescription
shouldn't be open-ended and shouldn't be a huge commitment. I imagine it
would be a couple of months of work during spare time.



jgfoster wrote

Hi Richard,

So the $$$$ that we gave you is now ���lost"? Perhaps people didn���t
understand what you expected from us other than money. What else is
needed
to make your project a success? We are supposed to ���code the
competition���
as well? Anything else?

Is this practice of insulting people (���Doesn���t anyone care about
promoting
Pharo?���) supposed to be motivating? Is it a demonstration of you
expertise
at marketing? Does it build confidence about how the Smalltalk community
will be perceived by the new arrivals?

I���ve appreciated your blog posts and your passion, but I���m put off by
this
approach.

James

P.S. I realize that I���m probably doing what I���m criticizing in
you���throwing out negative comments from behind a keyboard to score
points
when I might not be so harsh in person. 

On Nov 20, 2018, at 2:36 PM, Richard Kenneth Eng &lt;

horrido.hobbies@

&gt; wrote:

Not even a single nibble? Doesn't anyone care about promoting Pharo?

What a colossal lost opportunity!


On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 09:29, Richard Kenneth Eng &lt;

horrido.hobbies@

&lt;mailto:

horrido.hobbies@

&gt;> wrote:

Some of you may already be aware of my presentation at Smalltalks 2018,
the outcome of which was full funding for my Smalltalk programming
competition. See My Keynote at the Salta Conference
&lt;https://hackernoon.com/my-keynote-at-the-salta-conference-435dfaccc888&gt
&lt;https://hackernoon.com/my-keynote-at-the-salta-conference-435dfaccc888&amp;gt&gt;;.

Three years ago, David Buck provided an outline for the competition.
See
attached.

I would like to use that as a starting point, though I am open to
alternative suggestions.

The reason for this post is the following...

I need volunteers to code the competition. I am nowhere near qualified
to
do so, as my knowledge of Pharo is limited.

Without help from Pharoers (or, at least, Smalltalkers), the
competition
is in jeopardy. This is a great opportunity to promote Pharo. (The
original competition three years ago was going to use VisualWorks, but
since Cincom did not see fit to support my competition this year, I
decided to go with Pharo.)

Please contact me if anyone is interested. It would be a terrible shame
to waste this opportunity.

Regards,
Richard

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