FWIW

I've seen similar issues with P9 and P10 in my simple project - which has nothing fancy happening��with threads or processes .

Typically the system would sometimes freeze for about 20 minutes and then resolve by itself. Days of trying workarounds finally revealed the Spec2 layout calculations were very very busy.��

Perhaps the geometry calculations�� aren't readily converging? Changing the initial window size seemed to magically sidestep the problem. Also slightly changing some values for�� #add:height: #add:widget: constraints in the layouts seemed to avoid the��problem too. Finicky indeed...

I also occassionally see the P9 and P10 environment freeze if left unattended too long. No idea why.

Sometimes a presenter won't display properly unless and until I click in another window. No idea why.

SpTablePresenters often paint with column alignment problems -�� you need to click the table -�� or reset with #items: to get a neatly aligned result...

Coping with these behaviours can be incredibly time��consuming...

I wonder how many people are seeing similar quirky behaviours...?

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022, 3:50 am Stewart MacLean, <stewart@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

Thanks all for your suggestions/replies.

Nothing fixes it for now. I accept that due to the single threaded nature of the UI that there will be glitches��occasionally, and when you are using low level interfaces.

The weird thing is this happens after restarting, when everything should be pristine!

Cheers,

Stewart

On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 9:41 PM Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi@gmail.com> wrote:
I've got it too with P9 when I leave an image open for a while. I becomes unresponsive and I have to kill it from the Mac OS "force quit" popup.
Hppened to me with the Pharo launcher too.

Noury
On Apr 28 2022, at 3:47 am, Yanni Chiu <yannix7db@gmail.com> wrote:
Try switching focus to another app on your Mac (e.g. Finder or web browser), then back to Pharo��

On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 8:44 PM Stewart MacLean <stewart@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
Hi,

[Pharo 10 on Mac Monterey]

Due to the multi-process nature of Bonjour that I'm attempting to interface to, I am crashing the system ALOT as it disappears down a black hole and I try to figure out the cause.

However, I've noticed that most of the time when I restart Pharo it is unresponsive to clicks and I have to relaunch Pharo AGAIN! Argh....!

The mouse moves but no one is at home. Right click brings up menus, but they don't respond.

As I move the mouse, list items are highlighted.

As this is a completely new OS process, I'm wondering what is causing this behaviour?

Has anyone else experienced this, or have an explanation?

Cheers,

Stewart