stepharo:

Why not pushing/improving

�� either
�� UPBE
�� ProfStef
�� With the Mooc Counter example:��In TWO MINUTES��people get something DONE a simple counter.��
�� What else can it be.��

I run the following experience during my lecture. I give 1 hour presentation about pharo / vision / sneakpeek and ask them to watch the counter
video and redo it and it works!

Indeed, you can. My opinion was in the lines of improving Profstef :)

Mooc may be good in a class with a teacher for the student to take doubts, but I find a little confusing for someone that finds it by its own in pharo.org.��

I have some friends on the field, some are overseas (I am in Brazil) and when the opportunity comes I talk about Smalltalk and Pharo and how good it is, then:

1- Some get interested and asks for reference, I usually point to the Proftef, the site and the PBE;

2- Some are interested and we are close so I can I explain something myself and show the environment, maybe pairing;

3- Sometimes someone got interested and went to the pharo.org by itself and I know of that only afterwards.��

In every situation people got confused :(

The best time was 2, because I could explain better what was going on, but usually people try by itself, and that don't went well. For example, some report to me that had made the exercise from PBE and got really confused in the end: what was that I was doing? Where are my classes again? Workspace? Where is the code again? What happened?��

I think it is hard for someone that already internalize the concept of image and self contained environment to understand why this confusion is happening, but when you come to think about it that is not so strange because people are used to files and all those crap static stuff, so it is kind of a huge paradigm shift learning Pharo: it is��confusing for them.��

But it seems to me that you are focusing more on fresh people, been teach on classrooms and such, right now. That may be good, I am not sure if people already in the industry can be cooped in enough size to be able to improve Pharo community and use.

On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 9:21 AM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:

funnily dale I read it like you wish :)

Le 26/10/16 �� 21:53, Dale Henrichs a ��crit��:

On 10/26/16 12:13 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna C��rdenas wrote:

Hi,

On the issue of contributing to Free, Libre, Open Source Software (FLOSS) projects, I have been reading recently Nadia Eghbal and her analysis that confirm that most FLOSS projects are done by individuals and small teams, which is contrary to the bazaar narrative. This comic shows the point:

and you can find more details here: https://medium.com/@nayafia/what-success-really-looks-like-in-open-source-2dd1facaf91c#.e360z53sf

After skimming the actual article and finding that the points made in the article are valid I would have wished that the right panel in the cartoon had said "one more pull request before going to bed" since that is closer to what the article is about ... an active, community that contributes is also an important component and something that Pharo/Smalltalk community does indeed have.

Dale