2015-02-12 14:35 GMT+01:00 kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com>:
And there lies your problem. You dont agree with me and I dont agree with you and the next guy wont agree with either of us.��

But you both agree on: "Pharo needs a GUI framework" , no?

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But there are many people out there that love Spec and Bloc may be proven an excellent replacement for Morphic who knows , we definitely wont know if everyone start focusing on Spec alone.

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It is not the goal of Spec to replace Morphic.And "Spec or Bloc" is not the question. Spec without the UI elements is pretty useless.


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On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry@dcc.uchile.cl> wrote:

On Feb 12, 2015, at 10:12, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:

All of the above frameworks have tons of users so one thing that this shows us is that fragmentation is really beneficial to a community. The reason is simple,

GUI is so complex subject but there will never be one ring to rule them all. Many have tried, all of them have failed. ��

I don���t agree. If we would have more than 10 developers working on GUI frameworks in Pharo this may be the case. But we don���t have this number. If we are very lucky we may have 4.

I would rather have 4 persons pulling a large cart in the same direction, instead of 4 of them pulling their own cart (1/4th the size) in more-or-less the same direction (if at all) as the other guys. In the first case a lot more progress will be made. If there is something wrong with the cart, fix it! Do not waste all this time building your own.

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