To be honest, I didn't know you could do live coding in Python, Ruby, C/C++.
I had only ever heard of "hot swapping" in Java.

At any rate, I'd be surprised if live coding in these languages was as easy
and convenient as in Pharo/Smalltalk.



Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote
> Yes, you are right: Pharo/Smalltalk is more or less the same as
> Ruby/Python/C/C++ in terms of power & flexibility of OOP and in live
> coding.
>
> Come on.
>
>> On 6 Oct 2017, at 23:18, Dimitris Chloupis <

> kilon.alios@

> > wrote:
>>
>> Wise not to mention Ruby and Python and Pick the worst of the worst in
>> OOP. Because frankly the competition for Pharo against those two
>> behemoths can be quite brutal in the flexibility and power of OOP.
>>
>> And no , these language can do live coding with ease. I know because I
>> currently code live coding style with Python for an app I am making. Sure
>> it wont provide you with a live system out of the box, but put in 10
>> lines of code and you already ready to go with hardcore live coding. At
>> least Python , Ruby being practically a rip off of Smalltalk language may
>> need even less.
>>
>> iPython which by the way is by far the most popular Python tool is the
>> real deal, a full blow live coding enviroment.
>>
>> To my suprise its not even hard to do live coding with C/C++ including
>> using image format. To my shock live coding is actually supported by both
>> the OS and the hardware. Hardware has its own exception system , OS has
>> an image flie format called "memory mapped files" used for DLLs and a lot
>> of essential functionality.
>>
>> For some weird reason however its well hidden and not that much utilised
>> by coders. They really love long compile times, dont ask me why.
>>
>> But yeah C++ even though it has come a long way with its template system,
>> its still the king of ugly. That sytax, oh the horrors of that
>> syntax..... yiaks !!!
>>
>> I am so enternal greatful that Pharo introduced me to live coding and
>> opened my eyes to universe of fun and productivity. I cannot imagine
>> coding an other way ever again.
>>
>> I really hope that we take this further though.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 1:31 PM horrido <

> horrido.hobbies@

> > wrote:
>> Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk
>> <https://medium.com/smalltalk-talk/behold-pharo-the-modern-smalltalk-38e132c46053>
>>
>> If you would like to suggest some edits, I'm all ears. Anything to
>> improve
>> the impact of the article.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
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