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Screenshot attached. Look particularly at the text in the right-hand page of the playground. Also the control buttons of the playground window ��� the buttons go black when the window gets focus. I opened the ���About��� window so you can see which version I have ��� not yet Pharo 6.1, but not very out of date.

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From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Dimitris Chloupis
Sent: 27 August 2017 23:10
To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>
Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

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Also most don't know this but light themes of Pharo were in part hard coded. Esteban in order to create the dark theme which is based on the most popular dark theme ( if my memory serves correctly) , Darcula , he had to remove all this nasty code. He essentially made it possible for Pharo to have themes without worrying about hard coded colors. So if you ever want to make the light theme even lighter you have the dark theme to thank for making it easier for you.

Quite an irony , would not agree ?

If the doctors say your eye sight is great , he knows what he is talking about.

Black foreground against dark grey background sound like a bug. Care to share a screenshot ?

On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 at 00:51, PBKResearch <peter@pbkresearch.co.uk> wrote:

I agree with Dimitris - it is all a matter of preference - not all eyes are the same. For myself, I find the default dark theme in Pharo very uncomfortable. On my system, some elements have a black foreground on a dark grey background, which is almost impossible to see. This is always true of the maximise/minimise/close buttons, but sometimes also of text fields in a playground. Whenever I download a new image, I immediately switch to the Watery theme, with light background and nice coloured buttons on the windows.

Of course, my eyes may not be typical. I am now aged 84, and I have had cataract operations on both eyes. My sight is actually quite good - my optometrist confirms that I am legal to drive without spectacles - but my adverse reaction to dark mode is strong and immediate.

Just my 2p worth

Peter Kenny

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From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of stephan
Sent: 27 August 2017 21:46
To: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org
Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

On 27-08-17 22:37, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
> White or dark is a matter of preference. But the matter of preference
> is also a matter of biology . Not all eyes are same.

The research is pretty clear: a large majority of developers does better with light themes. I have been sufficiently clear on the choice to make
Pharo6 theme dark default

Stephan