El vie., 24 de abr. de 2015 a la(s) 8:31 a. m., stepharo <
stepharo@free.fr> escribi��:
It is the configurationBrowser (but an old configuration)
DependencyAnalyser (guillermo I thought that I fixed the text:
deprecation but apparently not)
or in PharoExtras
Hey! It is fixed :) ! (just downloaded it 2 secs ago...)
How did you load it? I did in latest pharo4
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Le 23/4/15 11:14, Norbert Hartl a ��crit :
> Stef,
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> where is "the tool"?
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> Norbert
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>> Am 23.04.2015 um 08:01 schrieb stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>:
>>
>> Two things:
>>
>> One:
>> We paid a guy to work on a tool to help us identifying dependencies, The tool works well is fast.
>> if this tool would be in the image, everybody could check that there are bad dependencies in his
>> code (and there are many around in nearly anybody's code).
>> No we prefer that me, pavel, and guille run it and fight with this instead of making sure that
>> when you commit we get some feedback like: "oh strange that this package is bound with this one".
>> This tool breaks when we do change in the image and I nicely (stupidly I would say) maintain it.
>>
>> Two:
>> Our process is not great to manage external packages and we will add more.
>> Sure it sounds like the right things to do, especially now.
>>
>> So to me it simply means that we are not serious and convinced about modularity.
>>
>> But this is great, I'm reconsidering what I will do in Pharo so you give me good indication
>> that I should not continue the way I was thinking. And no need to think that I'm emotional
>> I'm not. I'm thinking about why hell I'm doing all this.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> Le 22/4/15 21:27, Marcus Denker a ��crit :
>>>> On 22 Apr 2015, at 20:22, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
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>>>> Le 22/4/15 13:23, Esteban Lorenzano a ��crit :
>>>>> this is so good.
>>>>> what about integrate it to Pharo?
>>>> No. People should start to think modular.
>>>> No more external tools loaded by default.
>>>> Better invest in "add a startup preference" functionality in the configurationBrowser.
>>>>
>>>> Why we do not integrate the excellent tool of baptiste that would show to people
>>>> when they are creating package mess? Because of the same reason.
>>>>
>>> But the Pharo that we download should be the Pharo we use.
>>>
>>> We tried the other back in Pharo1.0: Do you remember how we fixed with lots
>>> care all details, but then, everyone was using a different image, and all the
>>> details there where not fixed and all work was done double?
>>>
>>> If we do not make the Pharo that is downloaded to be that was is used, we will have
>>> that again.
>>>
>>> I don���t want everything in the image, but what everyone is supposed to be using should
>>> be there without needing an additional step.
>>>
>>>�� �� ��Marcus
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