yes normally there is one :)
Now I will check who is in.
What we should pay attention is that we are not really in favor of private discussions (even if I understand it fr business it is important).
If you think that this would be good we can create a private business list.

Stef


BTW, is there any special consortium list where we can discuss business out of the public eye?

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On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:02 PM, St�phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
>>
>
> You could try:
>
> | floats |
> floats := (1 to: 200000) collect: #asFloat.
> [ FloatPrintPolicy
>    value: InexactFloatPrintPolicy new
>    during: [
>        String new: 1500000 streamContents: [ :stream |
>            floats do: [ :each | each printOn: stream ] ] ] ] timeToRun
>
> => 796 ms
>
> I haven't looked at the Postgresql driver in detail, but I would guess that PostgresV2 reads from a String somewhere, which is slow unless care is taken, while psycopg probably does a binary read. That last thing can be done in Pharo as well, but not if the driver is text based somehow.
>
> You are right: Pharo should definitively be in the same range as other dynamically typed languages. But dynamic languages are dangerous: user become lazy / ignorant about performance.
>
> Thanks for pushing this.

+1
we need more people to profile and look at these aspects.
I can tell you that we are all working like crazy to improve the system and I hope that one of these days we will have
real regression tests. But well you know it takes a lot of time.

Stef