On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:21 PM, andres
<andres@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> wrote:
Hi, sorry for being disconnected for a couple of days.
I think the idea of raising money for supporting feature requests is really cool. And sure, I volunteer to setup a UserVoirce account. So, if we are all ok with it I'll be setting it up at some point between today and tomorrow.
Regarding the founding process both kickstarter and pledgie looks nice. From the FAQ it seems that kickstarter needs an US bank account, don't know if that may be an issue.��
Cheers,
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laurent laffont escribi��:
Yes I think it's good to have a real Pharo entity / status / association loi
��1901.
For architecture, as Andr��s said he/we can set a UserVoice. For raising
money http://pledgie.com/.
As for Flattr the idea is good but it seems to raise only little money
actually (feedback from pharobyexample and pharocasts. But we haven't tried
to encourage people to donate).
Laurent.
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:20 AM, St��phane Ducasse <
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
On Dec 10, 2010, at 11:00 PM, laurent laffont wrote:
Thinking again about this idea of voting system for features we would
like to see in Pharo.
I won't pay 10 euros / month for someone to develop full time on Pharo on
what I do not control (may not be the best words to explain my feelings :)
But I'm ready to give 30 to 50 euros to raise money to develop the most
wanted feature from a voting system. This give more visibility.
It's easier to make a one shot donation than give XXeuros/month.
Good!
Tell us what architecture we can use for that. I should find some time to
build a association of loi 1901 and get a paypal account for pharo.
So one way to achieve this is to set up a voting system AND associated
raising money system to develop the most wanted feature for one month.
Another way is to pick the most wanted feature for Google Summer of code.
Don't expect anything from it
With enough money one can stop his work for one month and develop
exclusively for Pharo. If it's too hard to raise money for one month, we can
try 15 days. I've seen that some great developers can do fantastic stuff in
15 days when he loves it :)
Laurent Laffont
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 10 December 2010 13:32, Davorin Rusevljan
<davorin.rusevljan@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Alan Rodas <alanrodas@gmail.com>
wrote:
I'm relatively new to Pharo, maybe this has been tried before, but
what
about a forum where the ideas are published.
Each idea could be a thread in the forum, and the people that would
like to
contribute may comment there. What it may be interesting is that the
whole
discussion about an idea could live in the thread, and you can keep
track of
old discussions and the state of a feature.
If you keep your ideas for yourself, and you cannot implement
something by
your own, that idea will die there. If you allow people to comment on
ideas,
maybe two or more people have the same, and they can start working on
it together. A forum allows for contacting people, and sharing, and,
in that
way, maybe the community will grow (Some developers feel they can do
something because they don't have the time to do it by their own, or
they
don't have the skills, but they can help to a dev team that share the
same
goals.)
Is just a thought.
If you did it before and didn't work, my apologies.
Well, those are all nice thoughts. I am also relatively new to Pharo
though, I am with Smalltalk for quite a long time. In my humble
opinion, while both are always nice to have, at this stage Pharo, much
needs more hands willing to do the work, than hands filling the wish
lists and voting about them.
Abso-freakin-lutely! :)
The Pharo team did marvelous job, I assume with a lot of investment of
their personal time and energy. They also did quite good job at
setting their targets since they already managed at transforming huge
but sometimes hectic Squeak core into consistent development product.
The way things currently work nicely reflect this, you can freely
float your ideas on the mailing list, but do not expect that someone
else should do it just because of that. But the better the idea is,
and the larger your contribution to Pharo is, chances of it being
implemented will rise. Otherwise, roll up your sleeves, and do it for
yourself. If that is too complicated, consider doing something else
simpler but usefull.
I am always discussing ideas before going to implement them.
And for things i do, if i not sure if i doing the best way, or there
are multiple 'nice'
ways to solve the problem, i asking people, what they prefer.
In that way people staying in course of what i do, and sometimes could
give an advice or help by
other means.
But i don't expecting much, because we all busy with own agendas.
rush
http://www.cloud208.com/
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Best regards,
Igor Stasenko AKA sig.