On Aug 6, 2011, at 9:39 PM, Janko Mivšek wrote:

Hi guys,

I just noticed that there is no 'Debug it' in browser's right-click menu, but it is on Workspace. It would be nice to be there too, and there is a place for it. But not need to add Profile it and Watch it in browser's one. Debug it is important for "through debugger" development style .. :)

open an issue and try to add it and send code. It should not be that difficult

Second usability suggestion: please put Cut/Copy/Paste/Undo section consistently on the same place, or always on the top, or always somewhere else. Not on the bottom as is in context menu in Workspace while in browser it is on top. Same goes with DoIt/PrintIt/DebugIt block.

ok open a bug entry

Third: how is the state with merging Inspector and Explorer? Wasn't there already a nice tree-view Inspector in some older Pharo?

NewInspector was an attempt, I personally added it in Pharo 1.1 or so but I finally could not use it at all. I was like finger cut with this tool. So another version will have to be done first. Stef

Best regards Janko

-- Janko Mivšek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565

+1 on debug-it. I would also like a Browse-it menu item "everywhere." Control-b works, but that forces me to change from mouse to keyboard. -1 (make that -10<g>) on merging the inspector and explorer. They are different tools with different uses. I am quite happy to ask for the one I want. It *would* be nice to have the tools offer each other: the inspector could have an explore menu item, and vice versa. I know people worked very hard on the "new inspector," but it tried to be too many things all at once, and as a result, wasn't good for any of them. Customized (class-specific) inspectors can be very useful. IIRC, there is/was an MVC inspector. Snoop (Ian Bartholomew for MVP) and Ghoul (Chris Uppal, crash dump "debugger") are great examples of programming tools. We need to make it easy (*really* easy) to build user interfaces, and toolsmiths will emerge. To be fair, it's starting to happen: http://www.pharocasts.com/2011/03/build-xml-browser.html A big freedom I still find missing is the ability to make the above in the form of a composite presenter (PanelMorph??) that can be readily embedded in more complex GUI elements. Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Janko Mivšek [janko.mivsek@eranova.si] Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 3:39 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: [Pharo-project] Debug it from browser, menu consistency, merged Inspector Hi guys, I just noticed that there is no 'Debug it' in browser's right-click menu, but it is on Workspace. It would be nice to be there too, and there is a place for it. But not need to add Profile it and Watch it in browser's one. Debug it is important for "through debugger" development style .. :) Second usability suggestion: please put Cut/Copy/Paste/Undo section consistently on the same place, or always on the top, or always somewhere else. Not on the bottom as is in context menu in Workspace while in browser it is on top. Same goes with DoIt/PrintIt/DebugIt block. Third: how is the state with merging Inspector and Explorer? Wasn't there already a nice tree-view Inspector in some older Pharo? Best regards Janko -- Janko Mivšek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565