We want to remove historyNavigation from Nautilus...
Hi guys we really need to cleanup nautilus and we are thinking to remove the history navigation. So we hope that not that many people will cry but we should move on. We are also cleaning the group management. Stef
Hi Stef, Do you mean removing HistoryNavigation completely? Thierry Le 16/06/2015 18:00, stepharo a écrit :
Hi guys
we really need to cleanup nautilus and we are thinking to remove the history navigation. So we hope that not that many people will cry but we should move on. We are also cleaning the group management.
Stef
2015-06-16 18:00 GMT+02:00 stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>:
Hi guys
we really need to cleanup nautilus and we are thinking to remove the history navigation. So we hope that not that many people will cry but we should move on.
I use it often and I find it helpful. Will it be replaced with another history navigation?
We are also cleaning the group management.
Stef
I use it too. Le 16 juin 2015 22:10, "Nicolai Hess" <nicolaihess@web.de> a écrit :
2015-06-16 18:00 GMT+02:00 stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>:
Hi guys
we really need to cleanup nautilus and we are thinking to remove the history navigation. So we hope that not that many people will cry but we should move on.
I use it often and I find it helpful. Will it be replaced with another history navigation?
We are also cleaning the group management.
Stef
me too, quite a lot On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:19 PM phil@highoctane.be <phil@highoctane.be> wrote:
I use it too. Le 16 juin 2015 22:10, "Nicolai Hess" <nicolaihess@web.de> a écrit :
2015-06-16 18:00 GMT+02:00 stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>:
Hi guys
we really need to cleanup nautilus and we are thinking to remove the history navigation. So we hope that not that many people will cry but we should move on.
I use it often and I find it helpful. Will it be replaced with another history navigation?
We are also cleaning the group management.
Stef
We can keep it if people really use it. I never use it and usually this is for one of two methods deep because after I do not find my babies. Do you use it to spot the method? How deep long are going? Stef Le 16/6/15 22:09, Nicolai Hess a écrit :
2015-06-16 18:00 GMT+02:00 stepharo <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>>:
Hi guys
we really need to cleanup nautilus and we are thinking to remove the history navigation. So we hope that not that many people will cry but we should move on.
I use it often and I find it helpful. Will it be replaced with another history navigation?
We are also cleaning the group management.
Stef
I use it. But only because of the weird mouse event behaviour. Whenever the amount of events make my system browser go havoc I use the history to return where I was . Norbert
Am 17.06.2015 um 10:11 schrieb stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>:
We can keep it if people really use it. I never use it and usually this is for one of two methods deep because after I do not find my babies.
Do you use it to spot the method? How deep long are going?
Stef
Le 16/6/15 22:09, Nicolai Hess a écrit :
2015-06-16 18:00 GMT+02:00 stepharo <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>>: Hi guys
we really need to cleanup nautilus and we are thinking to remove the history navigation. So we hope that not that many people will cry but we should move on.
I use it often and I find it helpful. Will it be replaced with another history navigation?
We are also cleaning the group management.
Stef
Le 17/6/15 11:34, Norbert Hartl a écrit :
I use it. But only because of the weird mouse event behaviour. Whenever the amount of events make my system browser go havoc I use the history to return where I was .
How can we reproduce your problem? Because I do not like to hear that :)
Norbert
Am 17.06.2015 um 10:11 schrieb stepharo <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>>:
We can keep it if people really use it. I never use it and usually this is for one of two methods deep because after I do not find my babies.
Do you use it to spot the method? How deep long are going?
Stef
Le 16/6/15 22:09, Nicolai Hess a écrit :
2015-06-16 18:00 GMT+02:00 stepharo <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>>:
Hi guys
we really need to cleanup nautilus and we are thinking to remove the history navigation. So we hope that not that many people will cry but we should move on.
I use it often and I find it helpful. Will it be replaced with another history navigation?
We are also cleaning the group management.
Stef
On 17 Jun 2015, at 16:04, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
Le 17/6/15 11:34, Norbert Hartl a écrit :
I use it. But only because of the weird mouse event behaviour. Whenever the amount of events make my system browser go havoc I use the history to return where I was .
How can we reproduce your problem? Because I do not like to hear that :)
It is an old problem with scrolling. I use nautilus history for the same reason. Horizontal scrolling events are converted to right/left keypress events. So when you scroll up/down in the method pane and that youâre not vertical enough, the focus either jumps to the middle of the editor (dozen of right keypress events, not a big deal) or to another package (dozen of left keypress events, annoying). Camille
Norbert
Am 17.06.2015 um 10:11 schrieb stepharo <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>>:
We can keep it if people really use it. I never use it and usually this is for one of two methods deep because after I do not find my babies.
Do you use it to spot the method? How deep long are going?
Stef
Le 16/6/15 22:09, Nicolai Hess a écrit :
2015-06-16 18:00 GMT+02:00 stepharo <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>>: Hi guys
we really need to cleanup nautilus and we are thinking to remove the history navigation. So we hope that not that many people will cry but we should move on.
I use it often and I find it helpful. Will it be replaced with another history navigation?
We are also cleaning the group management.
Stef
camille teruel wrote
Horizontal scrolling events are converted to right/left keypress events.
Holy #@$! I could never figure out what was going on. Maybe I will finish implementing the "better hack for horizontal scrolling" in the VM and possibly eradicate this one until we have a proper solution with SDL... or maybe that is right around the corner? ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/We-want-to-remove-historyNavigation-from-Nautilus-tp48... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
This is the case: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/5296/Fast-Scroll-Down-produces-weird-event... <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/5296/Fast-Scroll-Down-produces-weird-event...> Actually, using history is a cool idea to recover after random jumping. I myself have a script that overrides hand morph methods to ignore ctrl+right_arrow, ctrl+left_arrow. But of course Iâm in a big pain when something changes. Uko
On 18 Jun 2015, at 04:57, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote:
camille teruel wrote
Horizontal scrolling events are converted to right/left keypress events.
Holy #@$! I could never figure out what was going on. Maybe I will finish implementing the "better hack for horizontal scrolling" in the VM and possibly eradicate this one until we have a proper solution with SDL... or maybe that is right around the corner?
----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/We-want-to-remove-historyNavigation-from-Nautilus-tp48... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Am 17.06.2015 um 16:04 schrieb stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>:
Le 17/6/15 11:34, Norbert Hartl a écrit :
I use it. But only because of the weird mouse event behaviour. Whenever the amount of events make my system browser go havoc I use the history to return where I was .
How can we reproduce your problem? Because I do not like to hear that :)
The best way to reproduce it is to buy a magic mouse :) Sometimes I am about to touch the mouse and an awful lot of events is created. The system browser happily consumes all of them and I can watch all panes select/deselect/scroll/etc. Usually 2-3 seconds later it stops and I can use the history to go back to the last place I've been. So the history saves my day! There is no way for me to reproduce. It just happens a lot of times. Norbert
Norbert
Am 17.06.2015 um 10:11 schrieb stepharo <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>>:
We can keep it if people really use it. I never use it and usually this is for one of two methods deep because after I do not find my babies.
Do you use it to spot the method? How deep long are going?
Stef
Le 16/6/15 22:09, Nicolai Hess a écrit :
2015-06-16 18:00 GMT+02:00 stepharo <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>>: Hi guys
we really need to cleanup nautilus and we are thinking to remove the history navigation. So we hope that not that many people will cry but we should move on.
I use it often and I find it helpful. Will it be replaced with another history navigation?
We are also cleaning the group management.
Stef
On 17 Jun 2015, at 16:58, Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name> wrote:
Am 17.06.2015 um 16:04 schrieb stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>:
Le 17/6/15 11:34, Norbert Hartl a écrit :
I use it. But only because of the weird mouse event behaviour. Whenever the amount of events make my system browser go havoc I use the history to return where I was .
How can we reproduce your problem? Because I do not like to hear that :)
The best way to reproduce it is to buy a magic mouse :) Sometimes I am about to touch the mouse and an awful lot of events is created. The system browser happily consumes all of them and I can watch all panes select/deselect/scroll/etc. Usually 2-3 seconds later it stops and I can use the history to go back to the last place I've been. So the history saves my day!
There is no way for me to reproduce. It just happens a lot of times.
Yes, it is an old problem, as described. I have it too sometimes. You learn not to do certain things. It is the only reason I use history as well ;-)
Norbert
Norbert
Am 17.06.2015 um 10:11 schrieb stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>:
We can keep it if people really use it. I never use it and usually this is for one of two methods deep because after I do not find my babies.
Do you use it to spot the method? How deep long are going?
Stef
Le 16/6/15 22:09, Nicolai Hess a écrit :
2015-06-16 18:00 GMT+02:00 stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>: Hi guys
we really need to cleanup nautilus and we are thinking to remove the history navigation. So we hope that not that many people will cry but we should move on.
I use it often and I find it helpful. Will it be replaced with another history navigation?
We are also cleaning the group management.
Stef
On 17-06-15 16:58, Norbert Hartl wrote:
The best way to reproduce it is to buy a magic mouse :) Sometimes I am about to touch the mouse and an awful lot of events is created. The system browser happily consumes all of them and I can watch all panes select/deselect/scroll/etc. Usually 2-3 seconds later it stops and I can use the history to go back to the last place I've been. So the history saves my day!
I stopped using a magic mouse for that... Stephan
I have a mouse with a wheel and it happens to me as well⦠but it might be that it only happens when I scroll using the trackpad gesture. On 18 June 2015 at 11:03, Stephan Eggermont <stephan@stack.nl> wrote:
On 17-06-15 16:58, Norbert Hartl wrote:
The best way to reproduce it is to buy a magic mouse :) Sometimes I am
about to touch the mouse and an awful lot of events is created. The system browser happily consumes all of them and I can watch all panes select/deselect/scroll/etc. Usually 2-3 seconds later it stops and I can use the history to go back to the last place I've been. So the history saves my day!
I stopped using a magic mouse for that...
Stephan
-- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet
stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> writes:
we really need to cleanup nautilus and we are thinking to remove the history navigation. So we hope that not that many people will cry but we should move on. We are also cleaning the group management.
what about removing the Nautilus history UI (drop-down list) but let Nautilus continue saving the information somewhere? That way, Spotter can find it. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill
From: damien.cassou@inria.fr To: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 06:27:56 +0200 Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] We want to remove historyNavigation from Nautilus...
stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> writes:
we really need to cleanup nautilus and we are thinking to remove the history navigation. So we hope that not that many people will cry but we should move on. We are also cleaning the group management.
what about removing the Nautilus history UI (drop-down list) but let Nautilus continue saving the information somewhere? That way, Spotter can find it.
If you want to keep the classes you watched in a kind of history, you can also use the group Most Viewed Classes. Franck
Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill
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