Le mardi 19 avril 2011 à 11:53 -0500, Miguel Cobá a écrit :

Cool, cool, cool!

Some great issues:

- Fantastic design! - Cool interface - Fluid - Good use of gravatar! - Great that includes issue tracking out of the box!

Thank you Miguel :)

Some minor issues:

- The link to ESUG on welcome page is broken

Fixed!

- Behind the search input there is some artifact shown. Fixed too :)

Feature request

- Maybe rename label in issues to tracker (as in redmine where are several trackers: error, task, suppor, etc., that groups same kind of issues) and add tags to freely group issues about content

Yes, this will be in the final release too.

ups, it went down. Hope it wasn't me clicking freneticly the all/open/closed issues buttons.

Nope, I just restarted it with some fixes. (It shouldn't happen again, as updates should happen without downtime). Nicolas

But in general amazing work guys!

Thanks to ESUG and ObjectFusion!

Stef, where can we donate to keep this kind of projects poping up?

El mar, 19-04-2011 a las 18:23 +0200, Nicolas Petton escribió:

...

Hi,

We are happy to announce the first public demo of SmalltalkHub: http://smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr

You can explore SmalltalkHub at: http://smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr/explore

This is an alpha quality demo, please use it for testing purposes only. Several features that will be included in the final release are missing, especially:

- Team management - Client-side scripting features - Full commit lists

Still incomplete features: - the UI for cloning is incomplete, especially, the list of forks is missing - The issue tracker is only partly implemented - Several admin tools are missing - The explore page misses a few things

Cheers, Nicolas

-- Nicolas Petton http://www.nicolas-petton.fr

Le mardi 19 avril 2011 à 10:18 -0700, Geert Claes a écrit :

Great stuff! I realize it is still a work in progress so just a couple of questions: - How about compare versions? This is still missing, but planned.

- Non Smalltalk resource files? That's a good question. I don't have an answer for that right now.

Cheers, Nicolas -- Nicolas Petton http://www.nicolas-petton.fr

Le mardi 19 avril 2011 à 10:31 -0700, Geert Claes a écrit :

Nicolas Petton wrote:

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...

- Non Smalltalk resource files? That's a good question. I don't have an answer for that right now.

Don't get me wrong this is great stuff already but since SmalltalkHub itself is a web app that uses non-smalltalk resources (javascript, css, images etc) it would be great to have one single repository to manage all project related resources. I understand, it would be a good addition. but how would you manage it?

Nicolas

-- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-SmalltalkHub-demo-online-tp3460871p3461025.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

-- Nicolas Petton http://www.nicolas-petton.fr

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas@gmail.com>wrote:

Le mardi 19 avril 2011 à 10:18 -0700, Geert Claes a écrit :

...

Great stuff! I realize it is still a work in progress so just a couple of questions: - How about compare versions? This is still missing, but planned.

...

- Non Smalltalk resource files? That's a good question. I don't have an answer for that right now.

Don't forget that this is a replacement for SqueakSource, not Monticello ;)

Cheers, Nicolas

-- Nicolas Petton http://www.nicolas-petton.fr

-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

On Apr 19, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:

- after pressing "new project", even if you press on dashboard or another url, you still remain with the dialog open

i ran into this too, just hit the cancel button on that dialog and it goes away. -- There are 10 types of people in the world, those who know binary, and

Le mardi 19 avril 2011 à 19:43 +0200, Tudor Girba a écrit :

Hi,

On 19 Apr 2011, at 19:39, Joseph T. Bore wrote:

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On Apr 19, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:

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- after pressing "new project", even if you press on dashboard or another url, you still remain with the dialog open

i ran into this too, just hit the cancel button on that dialog and it goes away.

I know, but it is an issue with the usability and I thought the authors should know about it :) yes, you're perfectly right. it will be fixed :)

Cheers, Nicolas

Cheers, Doru

...

-- There are 10 types of people in the world, those who know binary, and

-- www.tudorgirba.com

"No matter how many recipes we know, we still value a chef."

-- Nicolas Petton http://www.nicolas-petton.fr

Le mardi 19 avril 2011 à 19:34 +0200, Tudor Girba a écrit :

Hi,

Nice work! Thanks!

Some questions: - when should we expect this to be fully operational?

In the next few weeks.

- is the guide to move squeaksource projects to smalltalkhub available already? If not, when would you expect to have it? before a stable release :)

Some comments and issues: - I like the timeline of a project - I like the search availability - the filtering user interface is slightly confusing - i do not know what to do when I get there Thanks for the feedback. How would you like to see it improved?

- I cannot delete a user Right now you cannot delete users, packages or projects. But this will of course be added.

- In Safari, the search box goes over the Create a new project header Oops, CSS issue. I'll fix it.

- the Notes from the Create a new project page have no links: "Please read "Using SmalltalkHub" and "Getting started with Monticello" if you are looking for help." Yes, this is temporary (admins will be able to edit it).

- the only available license for creating a new project is MIT That's because I'm lazy. I'll add some other licenses. That's also configurable by admins. - I cannot delete a project - after pressing "new project", even if you press on dashboard or another url, you still remain with the dialog open There is a cancel button for that.

Cheers, Nicolas -- Nicolas Petton http://www.nicolas-petton.fr

Other feature request. Save the web, filter spaces from project names (at least in urls). :) Cheers El mar, 19-04-2011 a las 19:36 +0200, Sven Van Caekenberghe escribió:

On 19 Apr 2011, at 18:23, Nicolas Petton wrote:

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We are happy to announce the first public demo of SmalltalkHub: http://smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr

You can explore SmalltalkHub at: http://smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr/explore

This is an alpha quality demo, please use it for testing purposes only.

Great indeed. Nice work!

Works like a charm: http://smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr/user/svc/Zinc%20HTTP%20Components

The code browser is cool and fast.

It even accepts spaces in project titles, or is that a side effect ?

Thx,

Sven

-- Miguel Cobá http://twitter.com/MiguelCobaMtz http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr/ says it looks down as well... Dale On 04/19/2011 10:55 AM, Nicolas Petton wrote:

Le mardi 19 avril 2011 à 10:49 -0700, Dale Henrichs a écrit :

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Nicolas,

Very nice, but the site appears to be down now? I was pushing some mcz files up to the Metacello project ... I hope I didn't break it:)

It works fine here. Weird. I'll check if something strange happened.

Nicolas

...

Dale

On 04/19/2011 09:23 AM, Nicolas Petton wrote:

...

Hi,

We are happy to announce the first public demo of SmalltalkHub: http://smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr

You can explore SmalltalkHub at: http://smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr/explore

This is an alpha quality demo, please use it for testing purposes only. Several features that will be included in the final release are missing, especially:

- Team management - Client-side scripting features - Full commit lists

Still incomplete features: - the UI for cloning is incomplete, especially, the list of forks is missing - The issue tracker is only partly implemented - Several admin tools are missing - The explore page misses a few things

Cheers, Nicolas

On 19.04.2011 19:53, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote:

Slick interface and cool source browser!

Though: - no ssh - password in plaintext when you do view source on the dashboard...

I'd suggest focusing a bit on security before declaring it out of alpha :)

Cheers, Henry

And if it wasn't clear, by that I mean; don't just hide it from the source, don't store the password in a reversable format on the server at all :) Cheers, Henry

Le mardi 19 avril 2011 à 19:53 +0200, Henrik Sperre Johansen a écrit :

Slick interface and cool source browser!

Though: - no ssh Would you use SSH with Monticello? As with GIT? - password in plaintext when you do view source on the dashboard... yes, all passwords will be hashed. That's on my todo list too :)

I'd suggest focusing a bit on security before declaring it out of alpha :) Sure, on security and a bunch of other things too :)

Cheers, Nicolas -- Nicolas Petton http://www.nicolas-petton.fr

Le mardi 19 avril 2011 à 20:28 +0200, Tudor Girba a écrit :

Great.

Another question: Should we move the projects now, or will they most likely be deleted before the final release?

No, you should wait. 2 reasons: 1. I just found a bug in the db connection (Dale it should be up now ;) 2. I can't assure you that the db won't be deleted Cheers, Nicolas

Cheers, Doru

On 19 Apr 2011, at 20:20, laurent laffont wrote:

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What I did to clone ProfStef SS repo to SH:

Gofer it squeaksource: 'ProfStef'; package: 'ProfStef-Core'; package: 'ProfStef-Help'; package: 'ProfStef-Tests'; fetch.

Gofer it url: 'http://smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr/mc/user/laurent/ProfStef'; package: 'ProfStef-Core'; package: 'ProfStef-Help'; package: 'ProfStef-Tests'; push.

Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs

Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas@gmail.com> wrote: Hi,

We are happy to announce the first public demo of SmalltalkHub: http://smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr

You can explore SmalltalkHub at: http://smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr/explore

This is an alpha quality demo, please use it for testing purposes only. Several features that will be included in the final release are missing, especially:

- Team management - Client-side scripting features - Full commit lists

Still incomplete features: - the UI for cloning is incomplete, especially, the list of forks is missing - The issue tracker is only partly implemented - Several admin tools are missing - The explore page misses a few things

Cheers, Nicolas

-- Objectfusion S.A.R.L.

Web application development & design http://www.objectfusion.fr/en

-- www.tudorgirba.com

"Being happy is a matter of choice."

-- Nicolas Petton http://www.nicolas-petton.fr

Hi guys. This is awesome work. Everybody have already said all the good things, so I will just comment the little problems I saw: - It would be cool to put title / logo in the tabs of the browser. Sorry, I don't know how this is called in the web terminology. - Overlapping in the "search" and "Create a new account" or "Create a new project". Using latest Firefox on Mac OS. - Only MIT as default license - It would be cool to define own labels in the issue tracker Thanks a lot for this great work. AWESOME. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>wrote:

...and I suppose the final url won't be http://smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr/ neither, but something like: http://smalltalkhub.st/ :)

Nicolas, this is really great work!!!!

Cheers, Esteban

El 19/04/2011, a las 3:33p.m., Nicolas Petton escribió:

Le mardi 19 avril 2011 à 20:28 +0200, Tudor Girba a écrit :

Great.

Another question: Should we move the projects now, or will they most likely be deleted before the final release?

No, you should wait. 2 reasons: 1. I just found a bug in the db connection (Dale it should be up now ;) 2. I can't assure you that the db won't be deleted

Cheers, Nicolas

Cheers,

Doru

On 19 Apr 2011, at 20:20, laurent laffont wrote:

What I did to clone ProfStef SS repo to SH:

Gofer it

squeaksource: 'ProfStef';

package: 'ProfStef-Core';

package: 'ProfStef-Help';

package: 'ProfStef-Tests';

fetch.

Gofer it

url: 'http://smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr/mc/user/laurent/ProfStef';

package: 'ProfStef-Core';

package: 'ProfStef-Help';

package: 'ProfStef-Tests';

push.

Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs

Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/

Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/

Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

We are happy to announce the first public demo of SmalltalkHub:

http://smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr

You can explore SmalltalkHub at:

http://smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr/explore

This is an alpha quality demo, please use it for testing purposes only.

Several features that will be included in the final release are missing,

especially:

- Team management

- Client-side scripting features

- Full commit lists

Still incomplete features:

- the UI for cloning is incomplete, especially, the list of forks is

missing

- The issue tracker is only partly implemented

- Several admin tools are missing

- The explore page misses a few things

Cheers,

Nicolas

--

Objectfusion S.A.R.L.

Web application development & design

http://www.objectfusion.fr/en

--

www.tudorgirba.com

"Being happy is a matter of choice."

-- Nicolas Petton http://www.nicolas-petton.fr

-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Thanks Mariano, This is all planned, and for the CSS issue, I'll fix it too. Cheers, Nicolas Le mardi 19 avril 2011 à 20:46 +0200, Mariano Martinez Peck a écrit :

Hi guys. This is awesome work. Everybody have already said all the good things, so I will just comment the little problems I saw:

- It would be cool to put title / logo in the tabs of the browser. Sorry, I don't know how this is called in the web terminology.

- Overlapping in the "search" and "Create a new account" or "Create a new project". Using latest Firefox on Mac OS.

- Only MIT as default license

- It would be cool to define own labels in the issue tracker

Thanks a lot for this great work. AWESOME.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote: ...and I suppose the final url won't be http://smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr/ neither, but something like: http://smalltalkhub.st/ :)

Nicolas, this is really great work!!!!

Cheers, Esteban

El 19/04/2011, a las 3:33p.m., Nicolas Petton escribió:

> Le mardi 19 avril 2011 à 20:28 +0200, Tudor Girba a écrit : > > Great. > > > > Another question: Should we move the projects now, or will > > they most likely be deleted before the final release? > > > No, you should wait. 2 reasons: > 1. I just found a bug in the db connection (Dale it should > be up now ;) > 2. I can't assure you that the db won't be deleted > > Cheers, > Nicolas > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > On 19 Apr 2011, at 20:20, laurent laffont wrote: > > > > > What I did to clone ProfStef SS repo to SH: > > > > > > Gofer it > > > squeaksource: 'ProfStef'; > > > package: 'ProfStef-Core'; > > > package: 'ProfStef-Help'; > > > package: 'ProfStef-Tests'; > > > fetch. > > > > > > Gofer it > > > url: > > > 'http://smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr/mc/user/laurent/ProfStef'; > > > package: 'ProfStef-Core'; > > > package: 'ProfStef-Help'; > > > package: 'ProfStef-Tests'; > > > push. > > > > > > > > > Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs > > > > > > Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ > > > Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > > Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Nicolas Petton > > > <petton.nicolas@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > We are happy to announce the first public demo of > > > SmalltalkHub: > > > http://smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr > > > > > > You can explore SmalltalkHub at: > > > http://smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr/explore > > > > > > This is an alpha quality demo, please use it for testing > > > purposes only. > > > Several features that will be included in the final > > > release are missing, > > > especially: > > > > > > - Team management > > > - Client-side scripting features > > > - Full commit lists > > > > > > Still incomplete features: > > > - the UI for cloning is incomplete, especially, the list > > > of forks is > > > missing > > > - The issue tracker is only partly implemented > > > - Several admin tools are missing > > > - The explore page misses a few things > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Nicolas > > > > > > -- > > > Objectfusion S.A.R.L. > > > > > > Web application development & design > > > http://www.objectfusion.fr/en > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Being happy is a matter of choice." > > > > > > > > > > -- > Nicolas Petton > http://www.nicolas-petton.fr > > >

-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

-- Nicolas Petton http://www.nicolas-petton.fr

Maybe something like GitHub. Free for opensource projects. Paid for private/non-free projects. Same functionality for all. El mar, 19-04-2011 a las 21:52 +0200, Stéphane Ducasse escribió:

Some meta-thoughts

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- Only MIT as default license

do we want to offer as a free service other licenses? should hosting be free in that case? should we (the infrastructure be free for private projects?

I do not have preconceived ideas on the answers but educating people is important.

Stef

-- Miguel Cobá http://twitter.com/MiguelCobaMtz http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

On 04/19/2011 11:33 AM, Nicolas Petton wrote:

Le mardi 19 avril 2011 à 20:28 +0200, Tudor Girba a écrit :

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Great.

Another question: Should we move the projects now, or will they most likely be deleted before the final release?

No, you should wait. 2 reasons: 1. I just found a bug in the db connection (Dale it should be up now ;)

Yep, it's back ... I'll wait a day or two and then start the push again ... I just wanted to see if the basic push (MetacelloBrowser archive version) would work against SmalltalkHub... Dale

I forgot...something else I would love to have for the new squeaksource is a ConfigurationOfSmalltalkHub (or similar) so that everybody can set up their own private monticello server with a SmalltalkHub look and feel. This is REALLY important for companies and business (they all run they own svn/cvs/etc server). Usually, prepare an image and make it work with squeaksource,is complicated. But I see that the SmalltalkHub is commited in the same SmalltalkHub so I think it should be easy to get that, shouldn't it ? Cheers Mariano On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Nicolas Petton <petton.nicolas@gmail.com>wrote:

Le mardi 19 avril 2011 à 12:01 -0700, Dale Henrichs a écrit :

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On 04/19/2011 11:33 AM, Nicolas Petton wrote:

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Le mardi 19 avril 2011 à 20:28 +0200, Tudor Girba a écrit :

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Great.

Another question: Should we move the projects now, or will they most likely be deleted before the final release?

No, you should wait. 2 reasons: 1. I just found a bug in the db connection (Dale it should be up now ;)

Yep, it's back ... I'll wait a day or two and then start the push again ... I just wanted to see if the basic push (MetacelloBrowser archive version) would work against SmalltalkHub... Yes, it should, if it wasn't for this bug. It has to be tested anyway :)

Nicolas

...

Dale

-- Nicolas Petton http://www.nicolas-petton.fr

-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

seems like i'm too late on the party :( Service Temporarily Unavailable The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. Apache/2.2.12 (Ubuntu) Server at smalltalkhub.objectfusion.fr Port 80 -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.