CameraPlugin for (Pharo) VM
We once had a discussion already, to summarize: - the camera plugin from scratch worked according to Bernat Romagosa [1] - Stef checked the scratch license and said this license is not MIT so he do not want to see it in Pharo [2] [3] We didnt move on with this since we thought it is covered by Scratch license or since nobody really cared. But it looks like the Camera stuff is indeed released with MIT license (even before the discussion) I just found by accident this old issue: http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7654 <quotes> "two plugins that should be made available for standard VMs" "Per communication from Bert Freudenberg, source for CameraPlugin is now available under MIT license:" "Here is the CameraPlugin code under MIT license." </quote> Acccording to this issue the camera code was opened with MIT. The issue also includes the code. Can we check again - default support for camera would be a nice addition to our Pharo universe. Thx T. [1] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-July/051826.html [2] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-July/051838.html [3] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-July/051843.html
On 17 July 2013 15:30, Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de> wrote:
We once had a discussion already, to summarize: - the camera plugin from scratch worked according to Bernat Romagosa [1] - Stef checked the scratch license and said this license is not MIT so he do not want to see it in Pharo [2] [3]
We didnt move on with this since we thought it is covered by Scratch license or since nobody really cared.
But it looks like the Camera stuff is indeed released with MIT license (even before the discussion) I just found by accident this old issue:
http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7654
<quotes> "two plugins that should be made available for standard VMs"
"Per communication from Bert Freudenberg, source for CameraPlugin is now available under MIT license:"
"Here is the CameraPlugin code under MIT license." </quote>
Acccording to this issue the camera code was opened with MIT. The issue also includes the code.
Can we check again - default support for camera would be a nice addition to our Pharo universe.
If we include that plugin into VM, then there should be someone , who will take responsibility for maintaining and improving it. And that means: - making sure it works on all 3 major platforms (at least) and not breaks with new version(s) releases - updates the code, improves it etc - keep image-side code in good shape covered by tests and updated regularly , as Pharo make progress - have a good documentation any volunteers? I could, but i can't , because i already have multiple projects to care about. And i am close to limits of personal physical capabilities to keep things up. I didn't wanted to discourage anyone, but just wanted to remind that 'including into pharo' means a lot more than 'copying files there', otherwise it is not 'including', but planting timebomb which will explode eventually.
Thx T.
[1] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-July/051826.html [2] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-July/051838.html [3] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-July/051843.html
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.
On Jul 17, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua@gmail.com> wrote:
On 17 July 2013 15:30, Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de> wrote:
We once had a discussion already, to summarize: - the camera plugin from scratch worked according to Bernat Romagosa [1] - Stef checked the scratch license and said this license is not MIT so he do not want to see it in Pharo [2] [3]
We didnt move on with this since we thought it is covered by Scratch license or since nobody really cared.
But it looks like the Camera stuff is indeed released with MIT license (even before the discussion) I just found by accident this old issue:
http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7654
<quotes> "two plugins that should be made available for standard VMs"
"Per communication from Bert Freudenberg, source for CameraPlugin is now available under MIT license:"
"Here is the CameraPlugin code under MIT license." </quote>
Acccording to this issue the camera code was opened with MIT. The issue also includes the code.
Can we check again - default support for camera would be a nice addition to our Pharo universe.
If we include that plugin into VM, then there should be someone , who will take responsibility for maintaining and improving it.
And that means: - making sure it works on all 3 major platforms (at least) and not breaks with new version(s) releases - updates the code, improves it etc - keep image-side code in good shape covered by tests and updated regularly , as Pharo make progress - have a good documentation
any volunteers? I could, but i can't , because i already have multiple projects to care about. And i am close to limits of personal physical capabilities to keep things up.
I didn't wanted to discourage anyone, but just wanted to remind that 'including into pharo' means a lot more than 'copying files there', otherwise it is not 'including', but planting timebomb which will explode eventually.
amen
Thx T.
[1] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-July/051826.html [2] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-July/051838.html [3] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-July/051843.html
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.
On Jul 17, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua@gmail.com> wrote:
On 17 July 2013 15:30, Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de> wrote:
We once had a discussion already, to summarize: - the camera plugin from scratch worked according to Bernat Romagosa [1] - Stef checked the scratch license and said this license is not MIT so he do not want to see it in Pharo [2] [3]
We didnt move on with this since we thought it is covered by Scratch license or since nobody really cared.
But it looks like the Camera stuff is indeed released with MIT license (even before the discussion) I just found by accident this old issue:
http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7654
<quotes> "two plugins that should be made available for standard VMs"
"Per communication from Bert Freudenberg, source for CameraPlugin is now available under MIT license:"
"Here is the CameraPlugin code under MIT license." </quote>
Acccording to this issue the camera code was opened with MIT. The issue also includes the code.
Can we check again - default support for camera would be a nice addition to our Pharo universe.
If we include that plugin into VM, then there should be someone , who will take responsibility for maintaining and improving it.
And that means: - making sure it works on all 3 major platforms (at least) and not breaks with new version(s) releases - updates the code, improves it etc - keep image-side code in good shape covered by tests and updated regularly , as Pharo make progress - have a good documentation
any volunteers? I could, but i can't , because i already have multiple projects to care about. And i am close to limits of personal physical capabilities to keep things up.
I didn't wanted to discourage anyone, but just wanted to remind that 'including into pharo' means a lot more than 'copying files there', otherwise it is not 'including', but planting timebomb which will explode eventually.
Yes, in addition I really don't like to ship the VM with lots of specialized Plugins. (Klatt Plugin⦠) Wouldn't it be possible to use FFI instead? Than everything is in user land, no VM change needed. Marcus
Thanks for the update. Now I understand the concerns of igor and igor should finish its already large todo. But somebody else can help. Stef
We once had a discussion already, to summarize: - the camera plugin from scratch worked according to Bernat Romagosa [1] - Stef checked the scratch license and said this license is not MIT so he do not want to see it in Pharo [2] [3]
We didnt move on with this since we thought it is covered by Scratch license or since nobody really cared.
But it looks like the Camera stuff is indeed released with MIT license (even before the discussion) I just found by accident this old issue:
http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7654
<quotes> "two plugins that should be made available for standard VMs"
"Per communication from Bert Freudenberg, source for CameraPlugin is now available under MIT license:"
"Here is the CameraPlugin code under MIT license." </quote>
Acccording to this issue the camera code was opened with MIT. The issue also includes the code.
Can we check again - default support for camera would be a nice addition to our Pharo universe.
Thx T.
[1] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-July/051826.html [2] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-July/051838.html [3] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2011-July/051843.html
participants (5)
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Esteban Lorenzano -
Igor Stasenko -
Marcus Denker -
Stéphane Ducasse -
Torsten Bergmann