[Pharo-project] Workspace Enhancement
Why bother, a simple Smalltalk at: #MyVar put: anObject will do the job for you if required. Yes, this can lead to a leak if forgotten - but typically you will do this for testing purposes and you should not deploy your development image (use a clean image and a defined build process). SmalltalkMT always provided Workspace variables - but I never used them really. Less is sometimes more... Bye Torsten -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger
yeap! I would prefer to have a better inspector/explorer Stef On Jan 20, 2009, at 9:30 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
Why bother, a simple
Smalltalk at: #MyVar put: anObject
will do the job for you if required. Yes, this can lead to a leak if forgotten - but typically you will do this for testing purposes and you should not deploy your development image (use a clean image and a defined build process).
SmalltalkMT always provided Workspace variables - but I never used them really. Less is sometimes more...
Bye Torsten -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger
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On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
I would prefer to have a better inspector/explorer
Lukas reimplemented most Squeak tools using OB (inspector, explorer, debugger, workspace, transcript...). Dale fixed a lot of things in the debugger and things are going very well now. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
----- "Damien Cassou" <damien.cassou@gmail.com> wrote: | On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Stéphane Ducasse | <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote: | > I would prefer to have a better inspector/explorer | | Lukas reimplemented most Squeak tools using OB (inspector, explorer, | debugger, workspace, transcript...). Dale fixed a lot of things in the | debugger and things are going very well now. At one time, the OB-Tools had a chasing inspector which provided exloreIt-like feature in an OB window. The most recent versions of the OB-Tools has seen the return of the 'classic' inspector, which is nice, but... I liked the chasing inspector feature enough to bring it back as the 'exploreIt' implementation in GLASS. It is a quick and dirty implementation that can be improved, but when 'exploring' an object graph I've been happy with the chasing-style inspector. It's OB-based, so if there is interest I could make it available in OB-Tools. Dale
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs@gemstone.com> wrote:
At one time, the OB-Tools had a chasing inspector which provided exloreIt-like feature in an OB window. The most recent versions of the OB-Tools has seen the return of the 'classic' inspector, which is nice, but...
I liked the chasing inspector feature enough to bring it back as the 'exploreIt' implementation in GLASS. It is a quick and dirty implementation that can be improved, but when 'exploring' an object graph I've been happy with the chasing-style inspector.
It's OB-based, so if there is interest I could make it available in OB-Tools.
I would like it. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs@gemstone.com> wrote:
At one time, the OB-Tools had a chasing inspector which provided exloreIt-like feature in an OB window. The most recent versions of the OB-Tools has seen the return of the 'classic' inspector, which is nice, but...
I liked the chasing inspector feature enough to bring it back as the 'exploreIt' implementation in GLASS. It is a quick and dirty implementation that can be improved, but when 'exploring' an object graph I've been happy with the chasing-style inspector.
It's OB-based, so if there is interest I could make it available in OB-Tools.
I would like it.
Is it anything like the "dive" feature in VW? I really liked that. It doesn't have to load the whole object tree, which is much faster when you have a really big root object! Anyway, that would be nice... Rob
Is it anything like the "dive" feature in VW? I really liked that. It doesn't have to load the whole object tree, which is much faster when you have a really big root object!
Have a look at earlier versions of OB-Tools. They implement that, I replaced it with the behavior of the original inspectors after people complained about it. I think the chasing-style inspector is much better than the "dive" thing in VisualWorks, because you don't loose your navigation context with every click. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli@gmail.com> wrote:
Have a look at earlier versions of OB-Tools. They implement that, I replaced it with the behavior of the original inspectors after people complained about it. I think the chasing-style inspector is much better than the "dive" thing in VisualWorks, because you don't loose your navigation context with every click.
I don't know who complained but I would have loved to have this feature :-). -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
----- "Lukas Renggli" <renggli@gmail.com> wrote: | > Is it anything like the "dive" feature in VW? I really liked that. | It | > doesn't have to load the whole object tree, which is much faster | when you | > have a really big root object! | | Have a look at earlier versions of OB-Tools. They implement that, I | replaced it with the behavior of the original inspectors after people | complained about it. I think the chasing-style inspector is much | better than the "dive" thing in VisualWorks, because you don't loose | your navigation context with every click. | I'll go ahead and pull my the chasing inspector into OB-Tools, so that folks can play with it. Dale
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