Hi all, is it me or what? The latest 3.0 gives me a lot of red squares a bit everywhere around the place, making working with it a bit (a lot!) painful. I'm on 30407, frech from get.pharo.org. Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
On Sep 19, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
Hi all,
is it me or what? The latest 3.0 gives me a lot of red squares a bit everywhere around the place, making working with it a bit (a lot!) painful.
I do not know because busy with lecture writing and managing mess. Can you grab the debug button (I know this is unclear) but if you get the faulty morph you can get a debugger and we can see what is the message that is failing. It saved lot of work and frsutration because you know why you get the red cross of death. Stef
I'm on 30407, frech from get.pharo.org.
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TranslucentPatterns is undefined. Error: Instances of UndefinedObject are not indexable in FormCanvas>>translucentMaskFor:depth: Thierry Le 19/09/2013 17:24, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
On Sep 19, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
Hi all,
is it me or what? The latest 3.0 gives me a lot of red squares a bit everywhere around the place, making working with it a bit (a lot!) painful.
I do not know because busy with lecture writing and managing mess.
Can you grab the debug button (I know this is unclear) but if you get the faulty morph you can get a debugger and we can see what is the message that is failing. It saved lot of work and frsutration because you know why you get the red cross of death. Stef
I'm on 30407, frech from get.pharo.org.
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Ok probably linked to the changes made by fernando while removing translucentColor. Stef On Sep 19, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
TranslucentPatterns is undefined.
Error: Instances of UndefinedObject are not indexable in FormCanvas>>translucentMaskFor:depth:
Thierry
Le 19/09/2013 17:24, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
On Sep 19, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
Hi all,
is it me or what? The latest 3.0 gives me a lot of red squares a bit everywhere around the place, making working with it a bit (a lot!) painful.
I do not know because busy with lecture writing and managing mess.
Can you grab the debug button (I know this is unclear) but if you get the faulty morph you can get a debugger and we can see what is the message that is failing. It saved lot of work and frsutration because you know why you get the red cross of death. Stef
I'm on 30407, frech from get.pharo.org.
Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
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thierry do you have a scenario that I could reproduce. stef On Sep 19, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
TranslucentPatterns is undefined.
Error: Instances of UndefinedObject are not indexable in FormCanvas>>translucentMaskFor:depth:
Thierry
Le 19/09/2013 17:24, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
On Sep 19, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
Hi all,
is it me or what? The latest 3.0 gives me a lot of red squares a bit everywhere around the place, making working with it a bit (a lot!) painful.
I do not know because busy with lecture writing and managing mess.
Can you grab the debug button (I know this is unclear) but if you get the faulty morph you can get a debugger and we can see what is the message that is failing. It saved lot of work and frsutration because you know why you get the red cross of death. Stef
I'm on 30407, frech from get.pharo.org.
Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
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That's a problem with one of the fixes I have to carry around on 3.0. I'll update it, thanks. Thierry Le 20/09/2013 11:54, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
thierry
do you have a scenario that I could reproduce.
stef On Sep 19, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
TranslucentPatterns is undefined.
Error: Instances of UndefinedObject are not indexable in FormCanvas>>translucentMaskFor:depth:
Thierry
Le 19/09/2013 17:24, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
On Sep 19, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
Hi all,
is it me or what? The latest 3.0 gives me a lot of red squares a bit everywhere around the place, making working with it a bit (a lot!) painful.
I do not know because busy with lecture writing and managing mess.
Can you grab the debug button (I know this is unclear) but if you get the faulty morph you can get a debugger and we can see what is the message that is failing. It saved lot of work and frsutration because you know why you get the red cross of death. Stef
I'm on 30407, frech from get.pharo.org.
Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
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On Sep 20, 2013, at 12:16 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
That's a problem with one of the fixes I have to carry around on 3.0. I'll update it, thanks.
ok let us knw how we can help. Stef
Thierry
Le 20/09/2013 11:54, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
thierry
do you have a scenario that I could reproduce.
stef On Sep 19, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
TranslucentPatterns is undefined.
Error: Instances of UndefinedObject are not indexable in FormCanvas>>translucentMaskFor:depth:
Thierry
Le 19/09/2013 17:24, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
On Sep 19, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
Hi all,
is it me or what? The latest 3.0 gives me a lot of red squares a bit everywhere around the place, making working with it a bit (a lot!) painful.
I do not know because busy with lecture writing and managing mess.
Can you grab the debug button (I know this is unclear) but if you get the faulty morph you can get a debugger and we can see what is the message that is failing. It saved lot of work and frsutration because you know why you get the red cross of death. Stef
I'm on 30407, frech from get.pharo.org.
Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
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Le 20/09/2013 12:20, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
On Sep 20, 2013, at 12:16 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
That's a problem with one of the fixes I have to carry around on 3.0. I'll update it, thanks.
ok let us knw how we can help.
Hum, fix 11102/11142? There is a partial fix in 11528 which was integrated, but I don't feel confortable with it, so I prefer overwritting it in my image. Thierry
Stef
Thierry
Le 20/09/2013 11:54, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
thierry
do you have a scenario that I could reproduce.
stef On Sep 19, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
TranslucentPatterns is undefined.
Error: Instances of UndefinedObject are not indexable in FormCanvas>>translucentMaskFor:depth:
Thierry
Le 19/09/2013 17:24, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
On Sep 19, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
Hi all,
is it me or what? The latest 3.0 gives me a lot of red squares a bit everywhere around the place, making working with it a bit (a lot!) painful.
I do not know because busy with lecture writing and managing mess.
Can you grab the debug button (I know this is unclear) but if you get the faulty morph you can get a debugger and we can see what is the message that is failing. It saved lot of work and frsutration because you know why you get the red cross of death. Stef
I'm on 30407, frech from get.pharo.org.
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I dont have such problem. The problem I had was code completion having several errors while it tried to autocomplete and once I froze pharo because I changed a live object while the morph was displaying , that method was somewhat recycled (HelpBrowser class) so that may have been normal. But no problem with red boxes from what I can see, I am on 30402. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Stability-of-3-0-tp4709185p4709358.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
That was why I asked, to see if the problem was with my config or general. It was with my stuff :( Thierry Le 20/09/2013 15:14, kilon a écrit :
I dont have such problem. The problem I had was code completion having several errors while it tried to autocomplete and once I froze pharo because I changed a live object while the morph was displaying , that method was somewhat recycled (HelpBrowser class) so that may have been normal.
But no problem with red boxes from what I can see, I am on 30402.
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if the problem is caused by you then its good news, much easier to fix ;) So what caused the problem in the first place ? Goubier Thierry wrote
That was why I asked, to see if the problem was with my config or general.
It was with my stuff :(
Thierry
Le 20/09/2013 15:14, kilon a écrit :
I dont have such problem. The problem I had was code completion having several errors while it tried to autocomplete and once I froze pharo because I changed a live object while the morph was displaying , that method was somewhat recycled (HelpBrowser class) so that may have been normal.
But no problem with red boxes from what I can see, I am on 30402.
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On Sep 20, 2013, at 3:41 PM, kilon <thekilon@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
if the problem is caused by you then its good news, much easier to fix ;)
So what caused the problem in the first place ? issue with fileSystem handling non readable folder or something like that.
Goubier Thierry wrote
That was why I asked, to see if the problem was with my config or general.
It was with my stuff :(
Thierry
Le 20/09/2013 15:14, kilon a écrit :
I dont have such problem. The problem I had was code completion having several errors while it tried to autocomplete and once I froze pharo because I changed a live object while the morph was displaying , that method was somewhat recycled (HelpBrowser class) so that may have been normal.
But no problem with red boxes from what I can see, I am on 30402.
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I see, much more simple than I expected :) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Stability-of-3-0-tp4709185p4709370.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Le 20/09/2013 15:41, kilon a écrit :
if the problem is caused by you then its good news, much easier to fix ;)
So what caused the problem in the first place ?
I carry around an old fix for 2.0 and 3.0 for a red square of death in the file browser (red square only in 3.0). Since this fix is a change to a GUI element, it conflicts everytime the main package is changed. And the last one was the TranslucentColor thing :( In truth, it carries along a more serious fix, but that I have only done partially, which makes Pharo correctly handle file permissions. I did a Linux-only fix relying on NativeBoost for the time being, given that: - I dont have a Mac OSX machine to check it (have to use a different C API. I thought the Unix platform means Linux, but it seems to also cover OSX) - I had a no go from Igor for my ideas about solving a NativeBoost difficulty on startup, and I gave up writing a more complex fix that I don't need at the moment and which won't be integrated anyway. I'll write it if I need it :P In the mean-time, I get the benefits: in my developpement, if I test that a file is readable, it really is :) However, I need to be carefull tracking down 3.0 progress, that's all, and failures are not allways obvious (this one wasn't). Thierry
Goubier Thierry wrote
That was why I asked, to see if the problem was with my config or general.
It was with my stuff :(
Thierry
Le 20/09/2013 15:14, kilon a écrit :
I dont have such problem. The problem I had was code completion having several errors while it tried to autocomplete and once I froze pharo because I changed a live object while the morph was displaying , that method was somewhat recycled (HelpBrowser class) so that may have been normal.
But no problem with red boxes from what I can see, I am on 30402.
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I see, well if you want a macos platform to test I offer myself as a Guinea Pig :) Macos has even a diffirent filesystem to Linux and Windoom. Making our life "easier" to porting stuff :D Maybe a solution would be to find a cross platform C lib that works the same in all major 3 OS. Goubier Thierry wrote
Le 20/09/2013 15:41, kilon a écrit :
if the problem is caused by you then its good news, much easier to fix ;)
So what caused the problem in the first place ?
I carry around an old fix for 2.0 and 3.0 for a red square of death in the file browser (red square only in 3.0). Since this fix is a change to a GUI element, it conflicts everytime the main package is changed. And the last one was the TranslucentColor thing :(
In truth, it carries along a more serious fix, but that I have only done partially, which makes Pharo correctly handle file permissions. I did a Linux-only fix relying on NativeBoost for the time being, given that: - I dont have a Mac OSX machine to check it (have to use a different C API. I thought the Unix platform means Linux, but it seems to also cover OSX) - I had a no go from Igor for my ideas about solving a NativeBoost difficulty on startup, and I gave up writing a more complex fix that I don't need at the moment and which won't be integrated anyway. I'll write it if I need it :P
In the mean-time, I get the benefits: in my developpement, if I test that a file is readable, it really is :) However, I need to be carefull tracking down 3.0 progress, that's all, and failures are not allways obvious (this one wasn't).
Thierry
Goubier Thierry wrote
That was why I asked, to see if the problem was with my config or general.
It was with my stuff :(
Thierry
Le 20/09/2013 15:14, kilon a écrit :
I dont have such problem. The problem I had was code completion having several errors while it tried to autocomplete and once I froze pharo because I changed a live object while the morph was displaying , that method was somewhat recycled (HelpBrowser class) so that may have been normal.
But no problem with red boxes from what I can see, I am on 30402.
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Can you tell me if the result of DiskStore current is a MacStore ? Thierry Le 20/09/2013 16:07, kilon a écrit :
I see, well if you want a macos platform to test I offer myself as a Guinea Pig :) Macos has even a diffirent filesystem to Linux and Windoom. Making our life "easier" to porting stuff :D
Maybe a solution would be to find a cross platform C lib that works the same in all major 3 OS.
Goubier Thierry wrote
Le 20/09/2013 15:41, kilon a écrit :
if the problem is caused by you then its good news, much easier to fix ;)
So what caused the problem in the first place ?
I carry around an old fix for 2.0 and 3.0 for a red square of death in the file browser (red square only in 3.0). Since this fix is a change to a GUI element, it conflicts everytime the main package is changed. And the last one was the TranslucentColor thing :(
In truth, it carries along a more serious fix, but that I have only done partially, which makes Pharo correctly handle file permissions. I did a Linux-only fix relying on NativeBoost for the time being, given that: - I dont have a Mac OSX machine to check it (have to use a different C API. I thought the Unix platform means Linux, but it seems to also cover OSX) - I had a no go from Igor for my ideas about solving a NativeBoost difficulty on startup, and I gave up writing a more complex fix that I don't need at the moment and which won't be integrated anyway. I'll write it if I need it :P
In the mean-time, I get the benefits: in my developpement, if I test that a file is readable, it really is :) However, I need to be carefull tracking down 3.0 progress, that's all, and failures are not allways obvious (this one wasn't).
Thierry
Goubier Thierry wrote
That was why I asked, to see if the problem was with my config or general.
It was with my stuff :(
Thierry
Le 20/09/2013 15:14, kilon a écrit :
I dont have such problem. The problem I had was code completion having several errors while it tried to autocomplete and once I froze pharo because I changed a live object while the morph was displaying , that method was somewhat recycled (HelpBrowser class) so that may have been normal.
But no problem with red boxes from what I can see, I am on 30402.
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you mean whether it is in app store ? no its not . why ? Goubier Thierry wrote
Can you tell me if the result of DiskStore current is a MacStore ?
Thierry
Le 20/09/2013 16:07, kilon a écrit :
I see, well if you want a macos platform to test I offer myself as a Guinea Pig :) Macos has even a diffirent filesystem to Linux and Windoom. Making our life "easier" to porting stuff :D
Maybe a solution would be to find a cross platform C lib that works the same in all major 3 OS.
Goubier Thierry wrote
Le 20/09/2013 15:41, kilon a écrit :
if the problem is caused by you then its good news, much easier to fix ;)
So what caused the problem in the first place ?
I carry around an old fix for 2.0 and 3.0 for a red square of death in the file browser (red square only in 3.0). Since this fix is a change to a GUI element, it conflicts everytime the main package is changed. And the last one was the TranslucentColor thing :(
In truth, it carries along a more serious fix, but that I have only done partially, which makes Pharo correctly handle file permissions. I did a Linux-only fix relying on NativeBoost for the time being, given that: - I dont have a Mac OSX machine to check it (have to use a different C API. I thought the Unix platform means Linux, but it seems to also cover OSX) - I had a no go from Igor for my ideas about solving a NativeBoost difficulty on startup, and I gave up writing a more complex fix that I don't need at the moment and which won't be integrated anyway. I'll write it if I need it :P
In the mean-time, I get the benefits: in my developpement, if I test that a file is readable, it really is :) However, I need to be carefull tracking down 3.0 progress, that's all, and failures are not allways obvious (this one wasn't).
Thierry
Goubier Thierry wrote
That was why I asked, to see if the problem was with my config or general.
It was with my stuff :(
Thierry
Le 20/09/2013 15:14, kilon a écrit :
I dont have such problem. The problem I had was code completion having several errors while it tried to autocomplete and once I froze pharo because I changed a live object while the morph was displaying , that method was somewhat recycled (HelpBrowser class) so that may have been normal.
But no problem with red boxes from what I can see, I am on 30402.
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kilon <thekilon@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I see, well if you want a macos platform to test I offer myself as a Guinea Pig :) Macos has even a diffirent filesystem to Linux and Windoom. Making our life "easier" to porting stuff :D
Maybe a solution would be to find a cross platform C lib that works the same in all major 3 OS.
the problem is that the major OS's differ and even in one OS the file systems differ. (e.g. FATR FAT32 NTFS for Windows and ext3, 4 and others for Linux, OSX has HFS+(case insensiotive and case sensitive) and UFS So you might be able to have a common library which does not do that much (e.g. POSIX) or have a useful library that reuires you to understand what you are running on. I think the first step is to define the requiremnts that you need then you can work out if it can be done the same way on all OSs -- Mark
we will bring this issue during our next meeting. Now we should reorganise a bit ourselves because the texteditor should be finished. stef On Sep 20, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier@cea.fr> wrote:
Le 20/09/2013 15:41, kilon a écrit :
if the problem is caused by you then its good news, much easier to fix ;)
So what caused the problem in the first place ?
I carry around an old fix for 2.0 and 3.0 for a red square of death in the file browser (red square only in 3.0). Since this fix is a change to a GUI element, it conflicts everytime the main package is changed. And the last one was the TranslucentColor thing :(
In truth, it carries along a more serious fix, but that I have only done partially, which makes Pharo correctly handle file permissions. I did a Linux-only fix relying on NativeBoost for the time being, given that: - I dont have a Mac OSX machine to check it (have to use a different C API. I thought the Unix platform means Linux, but it seems to also cover OSX) - I had a no go from Igor for my ideas about solving a NativeBoost difficulty on startup, and I gave up writing a more complex fix that I don't need at the moment and which won't be integrated anyway. I'll write it if I need it :P
In the mean-time, I get the benefits: in my developpement, if I test that a file is readable, it really is :) However, I need to be carefull tracking down 3.0 progress, that's all, and failures are not allways obvious (this one wasn't).
Thierry
Goubier Thierry wrote
That was why I asked, to see if the problem was with my config or general.
It was with my stuff :(
Thierry
Le 20/09/2013 15:14, kilon a écrit :
I dont have such problem. The problem I had was code completion having several errors while it tried to autocomplete and once I froze pharo because I changed a live object while the morph was displaying , that method was somewhat recycled (HelpBrowser class) so that may have been normal.
But no problem with red boxes from what I can see, I am on 30402.
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