I am on OSX 10.8.5 (Mac mini Late 2012 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7 ) and tried to download a VM The ones on the download page<http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download> all seem to give me an .app that OSX says is damaged when I try to open it. I went to <http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/3.0/mac/> The stable which has the same date as the one on the download pages is reported as damaged but the <http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/3.0/mac/Pharo-VM-mac-latest.zip> dated 16th Sept starts. I have a older working VM Smalltalk vm version. 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 ' Which is the correct stable Mac VM? -- Mark
On 2013-09-18, at 08:28, news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) wrote:
I am on OSX 10.8.5 (Mac mini Late 2012 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7 ) and tried to download a VM
The ones on the download page<http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download> all seem to give me an .app that OSX says is damaged when I try to open it.
I just tried and I cannot confirm that â strange. Could you try again?
I went to <http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/3.0/mac/>
The stable which has the same date as the one on the download pages is reported as damaged but the <http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/3.0/mac/Pharo-VM-mac-latest.zip> dated 16th Sept starts.
I have a older working VM
Smalltalk vm version. 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 '
Which is the correct stable Mac VM?
the one that has "stable" in its name. latest => unstable / alpha / test release stable => THE stable one now that this is clear ;), what you downloaded in the first place is the all-in-one platform package which includes an image. Honestly I don't know why we still need this, but its there. The platform package is built on the stable VM release (as you correctly figured out). Currently the latest VM is close(-ish) to release. Does this answer your questions?
On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2013-09-18, at 08:28, news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) wrote:
I am on OSX 10.8.5 (Mac mini Late 2012 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7 ) and tried to download a VM
The ones on the download page<http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download> all seem to give me an .app that OSX says is damaged when I try to open it.
I just tried and I cannot confirm that â strange. Could you try again?
I went to <http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/3.0/mac/>
The stable which has the same date as the one on the download pages is reported as damaged but the <http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/3.0/mac/Pharo-VM-mac-latest.zip> dated 16th Sept starts.
I have a older working VM
Smalltalk vm version. 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 '
Which is the correct stable Mac VM?
the one that has "stable" in its name. latest => unstable / alpha / test release stable => THE stable one
now that this is clear ;), what you downloaded in the first place is the all-in-one platform package which includes an image. Honestly I don't know why we still need this, but its there. The platform package is built on the stable VM release (as you correctly figured out). Currently the latest VM is close(-ish) to release.
no, it is not :) is the "platform specific distribution of vm+image", something that we kinda need, but better than now :) Esteban
Does this answer your questions?
On 2013-09-18, at 11:13, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2013-09-18, at 08:28, news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) wrote:
I am on OSX 10.8.5 (Mac mini Late 2012 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7 ) and tried to download a VM
The ones on the download page<http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download> all seem to give me an .app that OSX says is damaged when I try to open it.
I just tried and I cannot confirm that â strange. Could you try again?
I went to <http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/3.0/mac/>
The stable which has the same date as the one on the download pages is reported as damaged but the <http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/3.0/mac/Pharo-VM-mac-latest.zip> dated 16th Sept starts.
I have a older working VM
Smalltalk vm version. 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 '
Which is the correct stable Mac VM?
the one that has "stable" in its name. latest => unstable / alpha / test release stable => THE stable one
now that this is clear ;), what you downloaded in the first place is the all-in-one platform package which includes an image. Honestly I don't know why we still need this, but its there. The platform package is built on the stable VM release (as you correctly figured out). Currently the latest VM is close(-ish) to release.
no, it is not :) is the "platform specific distribution of vm+image", something that we kinda need, but better than now :)
How is it not? The latest VM works better than stable? On OSX: - backspace works - JIT bug disappeared Which are 2 things that do not work in the stable version. What is missing?
On Sep 18, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2013-09-18, at 11:13, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2013-09-18, at 08:28, news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) wrote:
I am on OSX 10.8.5 (Mac mini Late 2012 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7 ) and tried to download a VM
The ones on the download page<http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download> all seem to give me an .app that OSX says is damaged when I try to open it.
I just tried and I cannot confirm that â strange. Could you try again?
I went to <http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/3.0/mac/>
The stable which has the same date as the one on the download pages is reported as damaged but the <http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/3.0/mac/Pharo-VM-mac-latest.zip> dated 16th Sept starts.
I have a older working VM
Smalltalk vm version. 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 '
Which is the correct stable Mac VM?
the one that has "stable" in its name. latest => unstable / alpha / test release stable => THE stable one
now that this is clear ;), what you downloaded in the first place is the all-in-one platform package which includes an image. Honestly I don't know why we still need this, but its there. The platform package is built on the stable VM release (as you correctly figured out). Currently the latest VM is close(-ish) to release.
no, it is not :) is the "platform specific distribution of vm+image", something that we kinda need, but better than now :)
How is it not? The latest VM works better than stable? On OSX: - backspace works - JIT bug disappeared
Which are 2 things that do not work in the stable version. What is missing?
- acceptance tests - the team feeling comfortable with it ;) I think we can promote the current one to stable, BUT we need to keep the old stables somewhere (just in case) Camillo, could you do the move? tx Esteban
>> >> How is it not? The latest VM works better than stable? >> On OSX: >> - backspace works >> - JIT bug disappeared >> >> Which are 2 things that do not work in the stable version. >> What is missing? > > - acceptance tests > - the team feeling comfortable with it ;) > > I think we can promote the current one to stable, BUT we need to keep the old stables somewhere (just in case) > > Camillo, could you do the move? => updated the Acceptance tests => updated the performance tests => updated the tests --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PharoS Tests Pharo 2.0 ---------------------- >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/3.0-VM/job/PharoSVM-tests/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/ looks green, except for an obsolete class test, which only happens under 1 platform and another windows related timeout that happens irregularly. (Going to comment those 2 tests out). --------=---------------------------------- PharoSVM Acceptance Tests (Moose + Seaside) --------=---------------------------------- >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/3.0-VM/job/PharoSVM-AcceptanceTests/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/ With PharoS and 2.0 it looks like 2 Moose tests from the #stable configuration fail: Moose.Test.HismoImporter.MooseHismoImporterTest.testEvery15Days Moose.Test.HismoImporter.MooseHismoImporterTest.testEvery2Years Moose.Test.HismoImporter.MooseHismoImporterTest.testEvery6Months all of them are DNUs: MooseHismoImporter(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #every2Years --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PharoVM Tests Pharo 2.0 ----------------------- >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/3.0-VM/job/PharoVM-tests/ => all green except for 3 tests delivering strange results under ubuntu 13.04 related to non-flushed streams ------------------------------------------ PharoVM Acceptance Tests (Moose + Seaside) ------------------------------------------ >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/3.0-VM/job/PharoVM-AcceptanceTest/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/ - same 3 moose tests failing on all platforms as for PharoS - mac slave has an integer (jit?) bug when loading the configuration of seaside
Camillo Bruni <camillobruni@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2013-09-18, at 08:28, news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) wrote:
I am on OSX 10.8.5 (Mac mini Late 2012 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7 ) and tried to download a VM
The ones on the download page<http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download> all seem to give me an .app that OSX says is damaged when I try to open it.
I just tried and I cannot confirm that â strange. Could you try again?
Yes I retried and did a bit of googling. The issue is Gatekeeper <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290> and I have set the System Preference to Mac App Store and identified developers (default in OS X Mountain Lion) â Only allow apps that came from the Mac App Store and developers using Gatekeeper can open. I can run all the VMs if I chnage to Anywhere â Allow applications to run regardless of their source on the Internet (default in OS X Lion v10.7.5); Gatekeeper is effectively turned off. Note: Developer ID-signed apps that have been inappropriately altered will not open, even with this option selected. I think this only matters for the first run then you are asked for permission toupdate some data and the OS notes that these can run. Which explains why my old VM worked as that was installed and run on an old machine which ran Lion so set to Anywhere. (or had found this issue for some app before and soadjuted the level)
I went to <http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/3.0/mac/>
The stable which has the same date as the one on the download pages is reported as damaged but the <http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/3.0/mac/Pharo-VM-mac-latest.zip> dated 16th Sept starts.
I have a older working VM
Which is the correct stable Mac VM?
the one that has "stable" in its name. latest => unstable / alpha / test release stable => THE stable one
Sorry I meant which was a working stable one assuming that the ones shown were broken, which I now realise they aren't. So I have three comments 1) How did the newest Pharo 3 VM work- was it generated by a different developer and then signed? 2) The Pharo download page should note that the VMs run only by temporarily chnaging Gatekeeper level. I suspect that most OSX 10.8 users who download software will have the same level as I had. 3) I think it is reasonable to assmue that developers will have the level set to Mac App Store and identified developers and is it possible to cosign the apps so that they pass the Gatekeeper check? (Ideally a version of Pharo app could come from the App Store as well to get a wider audience and that requires the signing as well) -- Mark
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