Trying to change the color of the window
I am trying to make a dark theme for pharo. So I was studying the subclasses of UITheme class. As a first step I want to darken the color of the windows , so I used newDefaultSettings class method to change the color, and I saw no effect. I also even tried to use the right arrow drop down menu that has an entry with window color and still I see no effect. Is this a bug ? I think I remember this used to work in Pharo 3. I am on Pharo 3 and using image 30753 which I fetched today with PharoLauncher. I would like to also ask if there is any documentation of themes and morphic around to help me customize the look its something really crucial for my project Ephestos and I would hate having to recreate Morphic from scratch to do this. Because as it is I find it very hard to understand the methods of UITheme.
Esteban has started a dark theme based on Darcula. I am eager to see/get some code based on that as a dark theme is really interesting for me due to eye problems. I tried with 2.0 but frankly, it is a massive mess to get things to diplay properly. One thing I did to see where things where happening is that I made Color white to respond something like a nuclear green instead of white and see where it was showing. Then you can pick the morphs and browse them. That's where you start crying. 3.0 should be in a better shape. Phil On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:51 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
I am trying to make a dark theme for pharo. So I was studying the subclasses of UITheme class. As a first step I want to darken the color of the windows , so I used newDefaultSettings class method to change the color, and I saw no effect. I also even tried to use the right arrow drop down menu that has an entry with window color and still I see no effect.
Is this a bug ?
I think I remember this used to work in Pharo 3.
I am on Pharo 3 and using image 30753 which I fetched today with PharoLauncher.
I would like to also ask if there is any documentation of themes and morphic around to help me customize the look its something really crucial for my project Ephestos and I would hate having to recreate Morphic from scratch to do this. Because as it is I find it very hard to understand the methods of UITheme.
Looks like colors have got a significant change... So, try: Color registerColor: (Color r: 0.0 g:1.0 b:0.0) named: #white. and things will be very green. Phil On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:51 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
I am trying to make a dark theme for pharo. So I was studying the subclasses of UITheme class. As a first step I want to darken the color of the windows , so I used newDefaultSettings class method to change the color, and I saw no effect. I also even tried to use the right arrow drop down menu that has an entry with window color and still I see no effect.
Is this a bug ?
I think I remember this used to work in Pharo 3.
I am on Pharo 3 and using image 30753 which I fetched today with PharoLauncher.
I would like to also ask if there is any documentation of themes and morphic around to help me customize the look its something really crucial for my project Ephestos and I would hate having to recreate Morphic from scratch to do this. Because as it is I find it very hard to understand the methods of UITheme.
Hi. The default settings are remembered in a class instance variable so that they can be changed according to (user) preference. If you make a change to #newDefaultSettings you should send #resetDefaultSettings to your theme class so that they get reinitialized when next required (when an instance of your theme is next created). Hope that helps. Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: kilon alios To: Pharo Development List Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 3:51 PM Subject: [Pharo-dev] Trying to change the color of the window I am trying to make a dark theme for pharo. So I was studying the subclasses of UITheme class. As a first step I want to darken the color of the windows , so I used newDefaultSettings class method to change the color, and I saw no effect. I also even tried to use the right arrow drop down menu that has an entry with window color and still I see no effect. Is this a bug ? I think I remember this used to work in Pharo 3. I am on Pharo 3 and using image 30753 which I fetched today with PharoLauncher. I would like to also ask if there is any documentation of themes and morphic around to help me customize the look its something really crucial for my project Ephestos and I would hate having to recreate Morphic from scratch to do this. Because as it is I find it very hard to understand the methods of UITheme.
*"Esteban has started a dark theme based on Darcula.* *I am eager to see/get some code based on that as a dark theme is really interesting for me due to eye problems.* *I tried with 2.0 but frankly, it is a massive mess to get things to diplay properly.* *One thing I did to see where things where happening is that I made Color white to respond something like a nuclear green instead of white and see where it was showing.* *Then you can pick the morphs and browse them. That's where you start crying.* *3.0 should be in a better shape."* yes its really a huge pile of mess this Morphic and close to no documentation does not make it any easier. It looks like I will not be avoiding creating my own GUI API on top of Athens which has some minimum documentation. Which will make my project tons of work or I will have to port probably back to python and using something like PyQT. I love Pharo and enjoy coding in it, but libraries are seriously hard to use because they are very messy and with very little to none documentation. I remember Esteban's dark theme, but I think it was more like an experiment than an ongoing project. *"Looks like colors have got a significant change...* *So, try:* *Color registerColor: (Color r: 0.0 g:1.0 b:0.0) named: #white.* *and things will be very green."* it would not be making much difference because I am not using color names but RGB values. Also I tried your approach, and though I can change white to another color and see the effect on window the color of the window remains unchangeable and I tried all types of Greys. By the way the veryVeryDarkGrey message had me laughing a lot. I propose the additions of the veryVeryVeryVeryVeryDarkGray and superDuperUberMaxGrey to be on the safe side :D *"Hi.* *The default settings are remembered in a class instance variable so that they can be changed according to (user) preference.* *If you make a change to #newDefaultSettings you should send #resetDefaultSettings to your theme class* *so that they get reinitialized when next required (when an instance of your theme is next created).* *Hope that helps.* *Regards, Gary"* Two problem with your proposition a) None of the theme classes use this message in the initialisation b) MNU maybe a Pharo 2 message that went MIA ? In any case I continue to study Morphic and see what will come out of this, not so pleasant , experience. Thank you all for your help.
On 10 Feb 2014, at 21:11, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
"Esteban has started a dark theme based on Darcula.
I am eager to see/get some code based on that as a dark theme is really interesting for me due to eye problems.
I tried with 2.0 but frankly, it is a massive mess to get things to diplay properly.
One thing I did to see where things where happening is that I made Color white to respond something like a nuclear green instead of white and see where it was showing.
Then you can pick the morphs and browse them. That's where you start crying.
3.0 should be in a better shape."
yes its really a huge pile of mess this Morphic and close to no documentation does not make it any easier. It looks like I will not be avoiding creating my own GUI API on top of Athens which has some minimum documentation. Which will make my project tons of work or I will have to port probably back to python and using something like PyQT. I love Pharo and enjoy coding in it, but libraries are seriously hard to use because they are very messy and with very little to none documentation.
I remember Esteban's dark theme, but I think it was more like an experiment than an ongoing project.
oh well⦠is ongoing but with my times⦠I donât know when I will be able to continue it :( Esteban
"Looks like colors have got a significant change...
So, try:
Color registerColor: (Color r: 0.0 g:1.0 b:0.0) named: #white.
and things will be very green."
it would not be making much difference because I am not using color names but RGB values. Also I tried your approach, and though I can change white to another color and see the effect on window the color of the window remains unchangeable and I tried all types of Greys. By the way the veryVeryDarkGrey message had me laughing a lot. I propose the additions of the veryVeryVeryVeryVeryDarkGray and superDuperUberMaxGrey to be on the safe side :D
"Hi. The default settings are remembered in a class instance variable so that they can be changed according to (user) preference.
If you make a change to #newDefaultSettings you should send #resetDefaultSettings to your theme class so that they get reinitialized when next required (when an instance of your theme is next created).
Hope that helps.
Regards, Gary"
Two problem with your proposition
a) None of the theme classes use this message in the initialisation
b) MNU
maybe a Pharo 2 message that went MIA ?
In any case I continue to study Morphic and see what will come out of this, not so pleasant , experience. Thank you all for your help.
What I noticed is that some parts are using the Theme but the only theme that provides them is the Watery one. So, the rest looks like hardcoded. Esteban, do you have some kind of changeset ? Phil On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>wrote:
On 10 Feb 2014, at 21:11, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
*"Esteban has started a dark theme based on Darcula.*
*I am eager to see/get some code based on that as a dark theme is really interesting for me due to eye problems.*
*I tried with 2.0 but frankly, it is a massive mess to get things to diplay properly.*
*One thing I did to see where things where happening is that I made Color white to respond something like a nuclear green instead of white and see where it was showing.*
*Then you can pick the morphs and browse them. That's where you start crying.*
*3.0 should be in a better shape."*
yes its really a huge pile of mess this Morphic and close to no documentation does not make it any easier. It looks like I will not be avoiding creating my own GUI API on top of Athens which has some minimum documentation. Which will make my project tons of work or I will have to port probably back to python and using something like PyQT. I love Pharo and enjoy coding in it, but libraries are seriously hard to use because they are very messy and with very little to none documentation.
I remember Esteban's dark theme, but I think it was more like an experiment than an ongoing project.
oh well... is ongoing but with my times... I don't know when I will be able to continue it :(
Esteban
*"Looks like colors have got a significant change...*
*So, try:*
*Color registerColor: (Color r: 0.0 g:1.0 b:0.0) named: #white.*
*and things will be very green."*
it would not be making much difference because I am not using color names but RGB values. Also I tried your approach, and though I can change white to another color and see the effect on window the color of the window remains unchangeable and I tried all types of Greys. By the way the veryVeryDarkGrey message had me laughing a lot. I propose the additions of the veryVeryVeryVeryVeryDarkGray and superDuperUberMaxGrey to be on the safe side :D
*"Hi.* *The default settings are remembered in a class instance variable so that they can be changed according to (user) preference.*
*If you make a change to #newDefaultSettings you should send #resetDefaultSettings to your theme class* *so that they get reinitialized when next required (when an instance of your theme is next created).*
*Hope that helps.*
*Regards, Gary"*
Two problem with your proposition
a) None of the theme classes use this message in the initialisation
b) MNU
maybe a Pharo 2 message that went MIA ?
In any case I continue to study Morphic and see what will come out of this, not so pleasant , experience. Thank you all for your help.
yes I feared that things would be hard coded. But the Vistary theme dramatically changes the look of the windows, so it cant be that hard coded. Unless windows treat Vistary theme in some special way but I find that doubtful. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:22 PM, phil@highoctane.be <phil@highoctane.be>wrote:
What I noticed is that some parts are using the Theme but the only theme that provides them is the Watery one.
So, the rest looks like hardcoded.
Esteban, do you have some kind of changeset ?
Phil
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>wrote:
On 10 Feb 2014, at 21:11, kilon alios <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
*"Esteban has started a dark theme based on Darcula.*
*I am eager to see/get some code based on that as a dark theme is really interesting for me due to eye problems.*
*I tried with 2.0 but frankly, it is a massive mess to get things to diplay properly.*
*One thing I did to see where things where happening is that I made Color white to respond something like a nuclear green instead of white and see where it was showing.*
*Then you can pick the morphs and browse them. That's where you start crying.*
*3.0 should be in a better shape."*
yes its really a huge pile of mess this Morphic and close to no documentation does not make it any easier. It looks like I will not be avoiding creating my own GUI API on top of Athens which has some minimum documentation. Which will make my project tons of work or I will have to port probably back to python and using something like PyQT. I love Pharo and enjoy coding in it, but libraries are seriously hard to use because they are very messy and with very little to none documentation.
I remember Esteban's dark theme, but I think it was more like an experiment than an ongoing project.
oh well... is ongoing but with my times... I don't know when I will be able to continue it :(
Esteban
*"Looks like colors have got a significant change...*
*So, try:*
*Color registerColor: (Color r: 0.0 g:1.0 b:0.0) named: #white.*
*and things will be very green."*
it would not be making much difference because I am not using color names but RGB values. Also I tried your approach, and though I can change white to another color and see the effect on window the color of the window remains unchangeable and I tried all types of Greys. By the way the veryVeryDarkGrey message had me laughing a lot. I propose the additions of the veryVeryVeryVeryVeryDarkGray and superDuperUberMaxGrey to be on the safe side :D
*"Hi.* *The default settings are remembered in a class instance variable so that they can be changed according to (user) preference.*
*If you make a change to #newDefaultSettings you should send #resetDefaultSettings to your theme class* *so that they get reinitialized when next required (when an instance of your theme is next created).*
*Hope that helps.*
*Regards, Gary"*
Two problem with your proposition
a) None of the theme classes use this message in the initialisation
b) MNU
maybe a Pharo 2 message that went MIA ?
In any case I continue to study Morphic and see what will come out of this, not so pleasant , experience. Thank you all for your help.
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phil＠highoctane.be