We tried this in the past, and it ends up that being able to type directly works smoother :) Anyway, cool feature, right now using Nautilus makes me cry ... Thanks again :) Ben On 15 Nov 2013, at 22:33, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:

Juraj, this enhancement of Nautilus will make famous :)

Alexandre

Le 15-11-2013 à 17:54, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka@gmail.com> a écrit :

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Hi!

Today during Mini Pharo Sprint at Santiago we implemented package filter for Nautilus. Stéphane had suggested this feature and we found it really useful. If anyone wants to try it, it is SLICE-Issue-12179-Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-box-JurajKubelka.1 at Pharo30Input See: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12179/Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-bo...

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Cheers, Jura

At least it exists, it’s already a lot :) Ben On 15 Nov 2013, at 23:28, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, we will see :-) This is something to try, it is hard to guess if people use it :-)

Cheers, Jura

El 15-11-2013, a las 18:46, Benjamin <Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo@gmail.com> escribió:

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We tried this in the past, and it ends up that being able to type directly works smoother :)

Anyway, cool feature, right now using Nautilus makes me cry ...

Thanks again :) Ben

On 15 Nov 2013, at 22:33, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:

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Juraj, this enhancement of Nautilus will make famous :)

Alexandre

Le 15-11-2013 à 17:54, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka@gmail.com> a écrit :

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Hi!

Today during Mini Pharo Sprint at Santiago we implemented package filter for Nautilus. Stéphane had suggested this feature and we found it really useful. If anyone wants to try it, it is SLICE-Issue-12179-Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-box-JurajKubelka.1 at Pharo30Input See: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12179/Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-bo...

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Cheers, Jura

Sure :-) I have just asked you for some details. But anyway I will do it and the is best way to see if the idea is good and if I understand the idea. Cheers, Jura El 16-11-2013, a las 14:16, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> escribió:

juraj

for the next Sprint adding back the typing select + enter => selecting effectively the entry. :)

Stef

On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka@gmail.com> wrote:

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Yes, we will see :-) This is something to try, it is hard to guess if people use it :-)

Cheers, Jura

El 15-11-2013, a las 18:46, Benjamin <Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo@gmail.com> escribió:

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We tried this in the past, and it ends up that being able to type directly works smoother :)

Anyway, cool feature, right now using Nautilus makes me cry ...

Thanks again :) Ben

On 15 Nov 2013, at 22:33, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:

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Juraj, this enhancement of Nautilus will make famous :)

Alexandre

Le 15-11-2013 à 17:54, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka@gmail.com> a écrit :

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Hi!

Today during Mini Pharo Sprint at Santiago we implemented package filter for Nautilus. Stéphane had suggested this feature and we found it really useful. If anyone wants to try it, it is SLICE-Issue-12179-Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-box-JurajKubelka.1 at Pharo30Input See: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12179/Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-bo...

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Cheers, Jura

We tried this in the past, and it ends up that being able to type directly works smoother :)

ben we want both: type selection + enter AND filter Because for example the last time I was looking for the XML support of famix and this is Importer XML Famix XML ConfigurationOfXML at one point it took 5 real minute to realize that there was another package with the importerXML So typing XML is nice. Now I love also typing + enter to go to a single package. I think that this is the second point I mention to juraj :) Stef

Anyway, cool feature, right now using Nautilus makes me cry ...

Thanks again :) Ben

On 15 Nov 2013, at 22:33, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:

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Juraj, this enhancement of Nautilus will make famous :)

Alexandre

Le 15-11-2013 à 17:54, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka@gmail.com> a écrit :

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Hi!

Today during Mini Pharo Sprint at Santiago we implemented package filter for Nautilus. Stéphane had suggested this feature and we found it really useful. If anyone wants to try it, it is SLICE-Issue-12179-Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-box-JurajKubelka.1 at Pharo30Input See: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12179/Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-bo...

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Cheers, Jura

Juraj, I think this is much simpler than that. Consider the scenario: 1 - I manually find the package RoassalExtras and click on it. 2 - Assume I type 'Roassal', _without_ pressing enter. I will have all the packages that contains the word 'Roassal' in them, but still have 'RoassalExtras' selected 3 - I press enter, then the package Roassal is selected. This is the same thing I think for the find class option. Alexandre On Nov 16, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi!

El 16-11-2013, a las 14:15, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> escribió:

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We tried this in the past, and it ends up that being able to type directly works smoother :)

ben we want both: type selection + enter AND filter

Because for example the last time I was looking for the XML support of famix and this is Importer XML Famix XML ConfigurationOfXML at one point it took 5 real minute to realize that there was another package with the importerXML So typing XML is nice.

Now I love also typing + enter to go to a single package. I think that this is the second point I mention to juraj :)

You are right. I was thinking about it and maybe I do not understand exactly how it should be visually presented. When I worked in VisualWorks I remember there are also two kinds of selection. One which displays what is selected, another one (just a tiny border around the item) which displays what is going to be selected (or something like that). I found it confusing. It can happen user see package selection which is not related to class list.

What if user do not press enter? Should the focus be returned to the selected one? Or after pressing Escape?

Cheers, Jura

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Stef

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Anyway, cool feature, right now using Nautilus makes me cry ...

Thanks again :) Ben

On 15 Nov 2013, at 22:33, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:

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Juraj, this enhancement of Nautilus will make famous :)

Alexandre

Le 15-11-2013 à 17:54, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka@gmail.com> a écrit :

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Hi!

Today during Mini Pharo Sprint at Santiago we implemented package filter for Nautilus. Stéphane had suggested this feature and we found it really useful. If anyone wants to try it, it is SLICE-Issue-12179-Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-box-JurajKubelka.1 at Pharo30Input See: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12179/Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-bo...

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Cheers, Jura

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On Nov 16, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:

Juraj,

I think this is much simpler than that.

Consider the scenario: 1 - I manually find the package RoassalExtras and click on it. 2 - Assume I type 'Roassal', _without_ pressing enter. I will have all the packages that contains the word 'Roassal' in them, but still have 'RoassalExtras' selected

in Nautilus the first one was 'pre selected'

3 - I press enter, then the package Roassal is selected.

This is the same thing I think for the find class option.

Alexandre

On Nov 16, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka@gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi!

El 16-11-2013, a las 14:15, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> escribió:

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We tried this in the past, and it ends up that being able to type directly works smoother :)

ben we want both: type selection + enter AND filter

Because for example the last time I was looking for the XML support of famix and this is Importer XML Famix XML ConfigurationOfXML at one point it took 5 real minute to realize that there was another package with the importerXML So typing XML is nice.

Now I love also typing + enter to go to a single package. I think that this is the second point I mention to juraj :)

You are right. I was thinking about it and maybe I do not understand exactly how it should be visually presented. When I worked in VisualWorks I remember there are also two kinds of selection. One which displays what is selected, another one (just a tiny border around the item) which displays what is going to be selected (or something like that). I found it confusing. It can happen user see package selection which is not related to class list.

What if user do not press enter? Should the focus be returned to the selected one? Or after pressing Escape?

Cheers, Jura

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Stef

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Anyway, cool feature, right now using Nautilus makes me cry ...

Thanks again :) Ben

On 15 Nov 2013, at 22:33, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:

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Juraj, this enhancement of Nautilus will make famous :)

Alexandre

Le 15-11-2013 à 17:54, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka@gmail.com> a écrit :

...

Hi!

Today during Mini Pharo Sprint at Santiago we implemented package filter for Nautilus. Stéphane had suggested this feature and we found it really useful. If anyone wants to try it, it is SLICE-Issue-12179-Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-box-JurajKubelka.1 at Pharo30Input See: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12179/Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-bo...

<Captura de pantalla 2013-11-15 a la(s) 17.49.03.png>

Cheers, Jura

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Thanks. I have just try it on classes and now I understand. Jura El 16-11-2013, a las 14:49, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> escribió:

On Nov 16, 2013, at 6:25 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka@gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi!

El 16-11-2013, a las 14:15, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> escribió:

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We tried this in the past, and it ends up that being able to type directly works smoother :)

ben we want both: type selection + enter AND filter

Because for example the last time I was looking for the XML support of famix and this is Importer XML Famix XML ConfigurationOfXML at one point it took 5 real minute to realize that there was another package with the importerXML So typing XML is nice.

Now I love also typing + enter to go to a single package. I think that this is the second point I mention to juraj :)

You are right. I was thinking about it and maybe I do not understand exactly how it should be visually presented.

as it was in Nautilus before esteban push his changes :)

you have the current selection in Color1 when you type the first occurence is marked with Color2 if you want the selection to the item with Color2 you type enter

It worked really well.

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When I worked in VisualWorks I remember there are also two kinds of selection. One which displays what is selected, another one (just a tiny border around the item) which displays what is going to be selected (or something like that). I found it confusing. It can happen user see package selection which is not related to class list.

This behavior is not link to class or pakages but to any list and the match is based on the item name not what it may contain.

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What if user do not press enter?

then why should something change because may be he should type another letter :)

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Should the focus be returned to the selected one? Or after pressing Escape?

escape can be used to clean the current on the fly

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Cheers, Jura

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Stef

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Anyway, cool feature, right now using Nautilus makes me cry ...

Thanks again :) Ben

On 15 Nov 2013, at 22:33, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:

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Juraj, this enhancement of Nautilus will make famous :)

Alexandre

Le 15-11-2013 à 17:54, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka@gmail.com> a écrit :

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Hi!

Today during Mini Pharo Sprint at Santiago we implemented package filter for Nautilus. Stéphane had suggested this feature and we found it really useful. If anyone wants to try it, it is SLICE-Issue-12179-Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-box-JurajKubelka.1 at Pharo30Input See: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12179/Nautilus-Add-package-filter-input-bo...

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Cheers, Jura