[Pharo-project] System vs. hierachy browsers
I am not sure how much of this is self-inflicted and how much is already fixed; perhaps someone can remind me of a solution that already exists. If not, think of it as a wish list. I have typically never liked so-called "system browsers" because they tend to show classes alphabetically and hide inheritance relationshiops; that's really important in trying to understand a design. The toolset I am using now is reasonably fast (in fact, it's perfectly fine on my new quad core box, but I hate throwing hardware at efficiency problems) but it not the bleeding edge. The system browsers do not show hierachies, and the [hierarchy] buttons spawn off something that often shows only one of the paths from a super class. IIRC, I've seen a browser that does better, but I can't remember which one it was or whether it can run fast enough to work on most of the hardware I see every day. Sorry for the complaining tone of the above; I don't mean it that way, but I also do not have time to fix it right now. Bill
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K<bschwab@anest.ufl.edu> wrote:
I am not sure how much of this is self-inflicted and how much is already fixed; perhaps someone can remind me of a solution that already exists. Â If not, think of it as a wish list.
I have typically never liked so-called "system browsers" because they tend to show classes alphabetically and hide inheritance relationshiops; that's really important in trying to understand a design. Â The toolset I am using now is reasonably fast (in fact, it's perfectly fine on my new quad core box, but I hate throwing hardware at efficiency problems) but it not the bleeding edge. Â The system browsers do not show hierachies, and the [hierarchy] buttons spawn off something that often shows only one of the paths from a super class. Â IIRC, I've seen a browser that does better, but I can't remember which one it was or whether it can run fast enough to work on most of the hardware I see every day.
Sorry for the complaining tone of the above; I don't mean it that way, but I also do not have time to fix it right now.
I don't really understand your problem. In all Pharo images, the default System Browser orders classes of the selected package/category hierarchically and not alphabetically. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry
Damien, It might be that the browser I am using on performance grounds is the source of the trouble. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Damien Cassou Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:01 PM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] System vs. hierachy browsers On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K<bschwab@anest.ufl.edu> wrote:
I am not sure how much of this is self-inflicted and how much is already fixed; perhaps someone can remind me of a solution that already exists. Â If not, think of it as a wish list.
I have typically never liked so-called "system browsers" because they tend to show classes alphabetically and hide inheritance relationshiops; that's really important in trying to understand a design. Â The toolset I am using now is reasonably fast (in fact, it's perfectly fine on my new quad core box, but I hate throwing hardware at efficiency problems) but it not the bleeding edge. Â The system browsers do not show hierachies, and the [hierarchy] buttons spawn off something that often shows only one of the paths from a super class. Â IIRC, I've seen a browser that does better, but I can't remember which one it was or whether it can run fast enough to work on most of the hardware I see every day.
Sorry for the complaining tone of the above; I don't mean it that way, but I also do not have time to fix it right now.
I don't really understand your problem. In all Pharo images, the default System Browser orders classes of the selected package/category hierarchically and not alphabetically. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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