Dear all, i am using Roassal for visualizing applications dependencies and metrics of applications / applications clusters on enterprise architecture level. I would now do some experiments with DSM and found an older mailing list post that DSM support in Roassal is currently in development. That is cool :-) How can i tests this feature? It is not part of the latest Roassal (dev) version. Please help ... :-) BW, Volkert
Hi Volkert, Yes, we started an effort on that. Consider: | view builder | view := ROView new. builder := RODependencyMatrixBuilder new. builder model: (Array with: true with: false). builder dependencyBoolean: #xor:. builder gapSize: 0. builder on: view. view open Another example: | view builder objects | objects := ROShape withAllSubclasses. view := ROView new. view @ RODraggable. builder := RODependencyMatrixBuilder new. builder model: objects. " builder noVerticalShape." builder dependency: #superclass. builder gapSize: 0. builder on: view. view open If you are working on something similar, it would be great to join forces... how to load Juraj's code: Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'JurajKubelka' project: 'RoassalProposals'; package: 'RoassalGraphBuilders'; load. (Smalltalk globals at: #RODependencyMatrixBuilderTest) browse. Look at the ROMatrixExample class Will you be at ESUG? Cheers, Alexandre On Sep 1, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Volkert Barr <volkert@nivoba.de> wrote:
Dear all,
i am using Roassal for visualizing applications dependencies and metrics of applications / applications clusters on enterprise architecture level. I would now do some experiments with DSM and found an older mailing list post that DSM support in Roassal is currently in development. That is cool :-)
How can i tests this feature? It is not part of the latest Roassal (dev) version. Please help ... :-)
BW, Volkert
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
Dear Alexandre, which Pharo and Roassal Version? I am loading the packages in Pharo 2.0 (Summer), but the examples did not work (ROLabel class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #verticalText). Gofer new squeaksource: 'Roassal'; package: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal) project lastVersion load. Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'JurajKubelka' project: 'RoassalProposals'; package: 'RoassalGraphBuilders'; load. (Smalltalk globals at: #RODependencyMatrixBuilderTest) browse. No, i am not at the ESUG. BW, Volkert On 01.09.2013, at 19:38, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
Hi Volkert,
Yes, we started an effort on that.
Consider:
| view builder | view := ROView new. builder := RODependencyMatrixBuilder new. builder model: (Array with: true with: false). builder dependencyBoolean: #xor:. builder gapSize: 0.
builder on: view. view open
<Screen Shot 2013-09-01 at 12.04.56 PM.png>
Another example: | view builder objects | objects := ROShape withAllSubclasses. view := ROView new. view @ RODraggable.
builder := RODependencyMatrixBuilder new. builder model: objects. " builder noVerticalShape." builder dependency: #superclass. builder gapSize: 0. builder on: view. view open <Screen Shot 2013-09-01 at 12.06.55 PM.png>
If you are working on something similar, it would be great to join forces...
how to load Juraj's code: Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'JurajKubelka' project: 'RoassalProposals'; package: 'RoassalGraphBuilders'; load. (Smalltalk globals at: #RODependencyMatrixBuilderTest) browse.
Look at the ROMatrixExample class
Will you be at ESUG?
Cheers, Alexandre
On Sep 1, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Volkert Barr <volkert@nivoba.de> wrote:
Dear all,
i am using Roassal for visualizing applications dependencies and metrics of applications / applications clusters on enterprise architecture level. I would now do some experiments with DSM and found an older mailing list post that DSM support in Roassal is currently in development. That is cool :-)
How can i tests this feature? It is not part of the latest Roassal (dev) version. Please help ... :-)
BW, Volkert
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- www.nivoba.de www.traveling-light.de
Today i tried again with a fresh pharo 2.0 image and loaded the latest version of "Roassal" and "RoassalProposals". Now it works ... will now dig a bit deeper .... :-) Thank you, Volkert On 02.09.2013, at 09:38, Volkert Barr <volkert@nivoba.de> wrote:
Dear Alexandre,
which Pharo and Roassal Version? I am loading the packages in Pharo 2.0 (Summer), but the examples did not work (ROLabel class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #verticalText).
Gofer new squeaksource: 'Roassal'; package: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal) project lastVersion load.
Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'JurajKubelka' project: 'RoassalProposals'; package: 'RoassalGraphBuilders'; load. (Smalltalk globals at: #RODependencyMatrixBuilderTest) browse.
No, i am not at the ESUG.
BW, Volkert
On 01.09.2013, at 19:38, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
Hi Volkert,
Yes, we started an effort on that.
Consider:
| view builder | view := ROView new. builder := RODependencyMatrixBuilder new. builder model: (Array with: true with: false). builder dependencyBoolean: #xor:. builder gapSize: 0.
builder on: view. view open
<Screen Shot 2013-09-01 at 12.04.56 PM.png>
Another example: | view builder objects | objects := ROShape withAllSubclasses. view := ROView new. view @ RODraggable.
builder := RODependencyMatrixBuilder new. builder model: objects. " builder noVerticalShape." builder dependency: #superclass. builder gapSize: 0. builder on: view. view open <Screen Shot 2013-09-01 at 12.06.55 PM.png>
If you are working on something similar, it would be great to join forces...
how to load Juraj's code: Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'JurajKubelka' project: 'RoassalProposals'; package: 'RoassalGraphBuilders'; load. (Smalltalk globals at: #RODependencyMatrixBuilderTest) browse.
Look at the ROMatrixExample class
Will you be at ESUG?
Cheers, Alexandre
I have not worked on it for a while. Let me know what is your opinion. Cheers, Jura El 05-09-2013, a las 9:51, Volkert Barr <volkert@nivoba.de> escribió:
Today i tried again with a fresh pharo 2.0 image and loaded the latest version of "Roassal" and "RoassalProposals".
Now it works ... will now dig a bit deeper .... :-)
Thank you, Volkert
On 02.09.2013, at 09:38, Volkert Barr <volkert@nivoba.de> wrote:
Dear Alexandre,
which Pharo and Roassal Version? I am loading the packages in Pharo 2.0 (Summer), but the examples did not work (ROLabel class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #verticalText).
Gofer new squeaksource: 'Roassal'; package: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal) project lastVersion load.
Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'JurajKubelka' project: 'RoassalProposals'; package: 'RoassalGraphBuilders'; load. (Smalltalk globals at: #RODependencyMatrixBuilderTest) browse.
No, i am not at the ESUG.
BW, Volkert
On 01.09.2013, at 19:38, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
Hi Volkert,
Yes, we started an effort on that.
Consider:
| view builder | view := ROView new. builder := RODependencyMatrixBuilder new. builder model: (Array with: true with: false). builder dependencyBoolean: #xor:. builder gapSize: 0.
builder on: view. view open
<Screen Shot 2013-09-01 at 12.04.56 PM.png>
Another example: | view builder objects | objects := ROShape withAllSubclasses. view := ROView new. view @ RODraggable.
builder := RODependencyMatrixBuilder new. builder model: objects. " builder noVerticalShape." builder dependency: #superclass. builder gapSize: 0. builder on: view. view open <Screen Shot 2013-09-01 at 12.06.55 PM.png>
If you are working on something similar, it would be great to join forces...
how to load Juraj's code: Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'JurajKubelka' project: 'RoassalProposals'; package: 'RoassalGraphBuilders'; load. (Smalltalk globals at: #RODependencyMatrixBuilderTest) browse.
Look at the ROMatrixExample class
Will you be at ESUG?
Cheers, Alexandre
Ok, super! Let us know how it goes Alexandre On Sep 5, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Volkert Barr <volkert@nivoba.de> wrote:
Today i tried again with a fresh pharo 2.0 image and loaded the latest version of "Roassal" and "RoassalProposals".
Now it works ... will now dig a bit deeper .... :-)
Thank you, Volkert
On 02.09.2013, at 09:38, Volkert Barr <volkert@nivoba.de> wrote:
Dear Alexandre,
which Pharo and Roassal Version? I am loading the packages in Pharo 2.0 (Summer), but the examples did not work (ROLabel class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #verticalText).
Gofer new squeaksource: 'Roassal'; package: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal) project lastVersion load.
Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'JurajKubelka' project: 'RoassalProposals'; package: 'RoassalGraphBuilders'; load. (Smalltalk globals at: #RODependencyMatrixBuilderTest) browse.
No, i am not at the ESUG.
BW, Volkert
On 01.09.2013, at 19:38, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
Hi Volkert,
Yes, we started an effort on that.
Consider:
| view builder | view := ROView new. builder := RODependencyMatrixBuilder new. builder model: (Array with: true with: false). builder dependencyBoolean: #xor:. builder gapSize: 0.
builder on: view. view open
<Screen Shot 2013-09-01 at 12.04.56 PM.png>
Another example: | view builder objects | objects := ROShape withAllSubclasses. view := ROView new. view @ RODraggable.
builder := RODependencyMatrixBuilder new. builder model: objects. " builder noVerticalShape." builder dependency: #superclass. builder gapSize: 0. builder on: view. view open <Screen Shot 2013-09-01 at 12.06.55 PM.png>
If you are working on something similar, it would be great to join forces...
how to load Juraj's code: Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'JurajKubelka' project: 'RoassalProposals'; package: 'RoassalGraphBuilders'; load. (Smalltalk globals at: #RODependencyMatrixBuilderTest) browse.
Look at the ROMatrixExample class
Will you be at ESUG?
Cheers, Alexandre
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
Have done some simple DSMs. Now, it have some questions ...is it possible - to have both cell colors and values? - to define action handlers for a cell? - to zoom in / out (for larger plots) For large number of cells it could be faster (with colored cells rendering is really slow) ... ;-) Anyway, cool work ..... thank you for Roassal / RoassalProposals. BW, Volkert On 05.09.2013, at 23:06, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
Ok, super! Let us know how it goes
Alexandre
On Sep 5, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Volkert Barr <volkert@nivoba.de> wrote:
Today i tried again with a fresh pharo 2.0 image and loaded the latest version of "Roassal" and "RoassalProposals".
Now it works ... will now dig a bit deeper .... :-)
Thank you, Volkert
On 02.09.2013, at 09:38, Volkert Barr <volkert@nivoba.de> wrote:
Dear Alexandre,
which Pharo and Roassal Version? I am loading the packages in Pharo 2.0 (Summer), but the examples did not work (ROLabel class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #verticalText).
Gofer new squeaksource: 'Roassal'; package: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal) project lastVersion load.
Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'JurajKubelka' project: 'RoassalProposals'; package: 'RoassalGraphBuilders'; load. (Smalltalk globals at: #RODependencyMatrixBuilderTest) browse.
No, i am not at the ESUG.
BW, Volkert
On 01.09.2013, at 19:38, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:
Hi Volkert,
Yes, we started an effort on that.
Consider:
| view builder | view := ROView new. builder := RODependencyMatrixBuilder new. builder model: (Array with: true with: false). builder dependencyBoolean: #xor:. builder gapSize: 0.
builder on: view. view open
<Screen Shot 2013-09-01 at 12.04.56 PM.png>
Another example: | view builder objects | objects := ROShape withAllSubclasses. view := ROView new. view @ RODraggable.
builder := RODependencyMatrixBuilder new. builder model: objects. " builder noVerticalShape." builder dependency: #superclass. builder gapSize: 0. builder on: view. view open <Screen Shot 2013-09-01 at 12.06.55 PM.png>
If you are working on something similar, it would be great to join forces...
how to load Juraj's code: Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'JurajKubelka' project: 'RoassalProposals'; package: 'RoassalGraphBuilders'; load. (Smalltalk globals at: #RODependencyMatrixBuilderTest) browse.
Look at the ROMatrixExample class
Will you be at ESUG?
Cheers, Alexandre
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
-- www.nivoba.de www.traveling-light.de
there is a DSM support in Moose. In what languages are written the app you want to analyse? On Sep 1, 2013, at 5:43 PM, Volkert Barr <volkert@nivoba.de> wrote:
Dear all,
i am using Roassal for visualizing applications dependencies and metrics of applications / applications clusters on enterprise architecture level. I would now do some experiments with DSM and found an older mailing list post that DSM support in Roassal is currently in development. That is cool :-)
How can i tests this feature? It is not part of the latest Roassal (dev) version. Please help ... :-)
BW, Volkert
No source code analyse. The information is about our application landscape and the data comes from from different data sources (as CSV-Files). I am using Pharo 2.0 with Roassal, NeoCSV ... On 02.09.2013, at 07:52, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
there is a DSM support in Moose. In what languages are written the app you want to analyse?
On Sep 1, 2013, at 5:43 PM, Volkert Barr <volkert@nivoba.de> wrote:
Dear all,
i am using Roassal for visualizing applications dependencies and metrics of applications / applications clusters on enterprise architecture level. I would now do some experiments with DSM and found an older mailing list post that DSM support in Roassal is currently in development. That is cool :-)
How can i tests this feature? It is not part of the latest Roassal (dev) version. Please help ... :-)
BW, Volkert
-- www.nivoba.de www.traveling-light.de
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