On 16 Apr 2015, at 16:32, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:

You didn't specified which Pharo version.

And you didn't provided even a minimal description... for an outsider Monticello and Metacello sounds almost the same, same with GTPlayground and GTSpotter, etc.

this is for *you* to help me, not the final web page.

Cheers,

Hernán

2015-04-16 10:48 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: Hi,

I want to add a “resources” page in pharo.org <http://pharo.org/>. The reason is simple: we are used to know (more or less) what we have, but people doing a search of what is pharo, etc. does not know what they can have *just downloading it*. I made a mall list. I need you to help me to complete it.

Keep in mind this is high level stuff (not details), frameworks and tools that can be used out of the box for people downloading Pharo.

thanks! Esteban

Full library including: Collections, Caches, Networking, I/O, Threads (Green), Sockets...

Development Tools ================= - GTInspector - GTPlayground - GTSpotter - Nautilus - Debugger - TestRunner - Versionner - Code Critics - Refactoring Tools - Profilers

Development ===========

Frameworks ---------- - Announcements - Regex - Keymapping - Multilingual (Latin, UTF8, Korean, Russian, Simplified Chinese, japanese, Greek, ...) - Command Line

Testing ------- - SUnit

GUI --- - OSWindow - Glamour - Spec - Morphic (With full widget set and Rubric, TxText)

Graphics -------- - Athens - Balloon - Graphics - Fonts (FreeType)

FFI --- - NativeBoost

Networking ---------- - Zinc/Zodiac

I/O --- - FileSystem - Compression (Zip, GZip)

Serializer ---------- - Fuel

Crypt ----- - CRC, DSA, MD5, SHA1, SHA256, Adler32

JIT --- - AsmJit

SCM --- - Gofer - Monticello - Metacello

Tutorial ======== - ProfStef

Hernan,

On 16 Apr 2015, at 16:48, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:

Ok about descriptions, but Pharo compatibility versions should be provided for each package, if not you would end with hundreds of packages not loadable in Pharo 4....and people then have to guess which is the right Pharo version for a package.

as my mail says, this are the frameworks already in the image, not a list of cool stuff people can download, but the things are already there. So in case of version, all versions are the same: 4.0 For downloaded packages there is already: http://catalog.pharo.org <http://catalog.pharo.org/> (which will be enhanced in the future, but is already there). cheers, Esteban

Your list is more or less the "core" packages already loaded by default in Pharo images.

Hernán

2015-04-16 11:38 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>:

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On 16 Apr 2015, at 16:32, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com <mailto:hernan.morales@gmail.com>> wrote:

You didn't specified which Pharo version.

And you didn't provided even a minimal description... for an outsider Monticello and Metacello sounds almost the same, same with GTPlayground and GTSpotter, etc.

this is for *you* to help me, not the final web page.

...

Cheers,

Hernán

2015-04-16 10:48 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: Hi,

I want to add a “resources” page in pharo.org <http://pharo.org/>. The reason is simple: we are used to know (more or less) what we have, but people doing a search of what is pharo, etc. does not know what they can have *just downloading it*. I made a mall list. I need you to help me to complete it.

Keep in mind this is high level stuff (not details), frameworks and tools that can be used out of the box for people downloading Pharo.

thanks! Esteban

Full library including: Collections, Caches, Networking, I/O, Threads (Green), Sockets...

Development Tools ================= - GTInspector - GTPlayground - GTSpotter - Nautilus - Debugger - TestRunner - Versionner - Code Critics - Refactoring Tools - Profilers

Development ===========

Frameworks ---------- - Announcements - Regex - Keymapping - Multilingual (Latin, UTF8, Korean, Russian, Simplified Chinese, japanese, Greek, ...) - Command Line

Testing ------- - SUnit

GUI --- - OSWindow - Glamour - Spec - Morphic (With full widget set and Rubric, TxText)

Graphics -------- - Athens - Balloon - Graphics - Fonts (FreeType)

FFI --- - NativeBoost

Networking ---------- - Zinc/Zodiac

I/O --- - FileSystem - Compression (Zip, GZip)

Serializer ---------- - Fuel

Crypt ----- - CRC, DSA, MD5, SHA1, SHA256, Adler32

JIT --- - AsmJit

SCM --- - Gofer - Monticello - Metacello

Tutorial ======== - ProfStef

I remember seeing this post http://forum.world.st/Why-not-having-NeoCSV-and-NeoJSON-in-the-image-td48084... which seems relevant to this - having bundles of packages dedicated to certain task. Reading CSV is a basic feature in R for reading data. Moose/ Roassal / GT

combo should have that out of the box. ... Build an image with Roassal CSV JSON XML + some math packages

Peter On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel@me.com> wrote:

Hi Esteban,

This is an excellent initiative! I have checked the pharo.org website, and it looks like that we should list the catalog of applications. Which cool application users can use with Pharo?

Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

On Apr 16, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I want to add a “resources” page in pharo.org. The reason is simple: we are used to know (more or less) what we have, but people doing a search of what is pharo, etc. does not know what they can have *just downloading it*. I made a mall list. I need you to help me to complete it.

Keep in mind this is high level stuff (not details), frameworks and tools that can be used out of the box for people downloading Pharo.

thanks! Esteban

Full library including: Collections, Caches, Networking, I/O, Threads (Green), Sockets...

Development Tools ================= - GTInspector - GTPlayground - GTSpotter - Nautilus - Debugger - TestRunner - Versionner - Code Critics - Refactoring Tools - Profilers

Development ===========

Frameworks ---------- - Announcements - Regex - Keymapping - Multilingual (Latin, UTF8, Korean, Russian, Simplified Chinese, japanese, Greek, ...) - Command Line

Testing ------- - SUnit

GUI --- - OSWindow - Glamour - Spec - Morphic (With full widget set and Rubric, TxText)

Graphics -------- - Athens - Balloon - Graphics - Fonts (FreeType)

FFI --- - NativeBoost

Networking ---------- - Zinc/Zodiac

I/O --- - FileSystem - Compression (Zip, GZip)

Serializer ---------- - Fuel

Crypt ----- - CRC, DSA, MD5, SHA1, SHA256, Adler32

JIT --- - AsmJit

SCM --- - Gofer - Monticello - Metacello

Tutorial ======== - ProfStef

2015-04-16 17:06 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:

On 16 Apr 2015, at 16:44, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@web.de> wrote:

2015-04-16 15:48 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:

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Hi,

I want to add a “resources” page in pharo.org. The reason is simple: we are used to know (more or less) what we have, but people doing a search of what is pharo, etc. does not know what they can have *just downloading it*. I made a mall list. I need you to help me to complete it.

Keep in mind this is high level stuff (not details), frameworks and tools that can be used out of the box for people downloading Pharo.

thanks! Esteban

Suggestions:

- I would move "Refactoring Tools" to frameworks, or do we have a Refactoring Tool besides Code Critics and Nautilus refactoring support? - Glamour is more a framework than a GUI library

ok, this two.

- I would remove OSWindow it does not work "out of the box”.

not quite. With SDL2 is very usable… it is rough, that’s true… but it works :)

:)

(and stable vm come with sdl2 for all platforms, too)

- there is a "Graphics" entry in category "Graphics", some hints what you would like to see for this entry?

yeah… name not good. This is the old graphics library (the one we actually use to display the world), I don’t know how to call it… BitBlt graphics, perhaps?

"Canvas" or "Bitmap graphics"

Esteban